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Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by jsnell »

syvanen wrote: post #65
jsnell wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> While Google Cloud account team constantly gets involved with Workspaces, Ads and Google Play related stuff. Not sure what you mean. Do you have a couple of concrete examples of that? > If I remember right just few years ago Google was told to stop giving cheaper prices on Google Cloud based on customers Ads and Google Play revenue. This one you've definitely just made up.

> This one you've definitely just made up. It was called "Project Hug". Based on the different sources it contained credits for all the google offerings such as Ads, Youtube and Google Cloud in exchange for keeping apps on the Google Play platform. Different repots on this: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/google-reportedly-paid-activis... https://gizmodo.com/google-denies-its-project-hug-bribed-20-... https://www.theve…

That doesn't match your original description at all.

> If I remember right just few years ago Google was told to stop giving cheaper prices on Google Cloud based on customers Ads and Google Play revenue.

None of your links describe them giving cheaper Cloud prices based on Ads or Play revenue.

I stand by the claim that you made it up.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by bazmattaz »

vr46 wrote: post #211
QuiEgo wrote: post #206

I find this whole thing frustrating. Chrome is going full on user hostile. But, most people use it, so webpages "just work." It's also reasonably good on battery use and memory (as of late 2024 - it's come a long way). Safari is resource efficient but has very few browser extensions, and sometimes webpages just don't work correctly with it. Firefox has uBlock but has noticeably worse battery life, and does not honor…

Ad-blocking, etc, are too important to me personally to delegate to just an extension, hence I use NextDNS, but naturally it can’t manipulate the DOM to tidy up the page. Luckily I have long-preferred Firefox but I recognize that it’s not for everyone, or hardly anyone for that matter. Maybe a local pi-hole would do the job properly.

DNS solutions like PiHole don’t work for YT ads because those ads are served from the same domain as YT.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by christophilus »

satvikpendem wrote: post #183
pa_nic wrote: post #182

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it's still here the 'left bar on hoover feature', it's just with another name

I am talking about this feature [0], it should have the option to show all the tab icons and expand on hover, not hide the side bar entirely. The creator said this was being dropped due to maintenance concerns, and I haven't seen a community solution like they said yet. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/zen_browser/s/FaQ8Ro6d8r

Well, that feature seems to be showcased on their marketing landing page, so they may want to address that.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by bitfilped »

shiroiushi wrote: post #227
WeylandYutani wrote: post #201

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The entire internet runs on ads unfortunately. I ditched YouTube entirely since this year because I got fed up with the commercial breaks but I am 41 I no longer need to know about the memes and trends.

You don't have to ditch YouTube to avoid annoying commercial breaks. Any decent ad-blocker will skip the ads in YouTube videos, or you can even use an alternative viewer like SmartTube.

Or pay for it and support the people who's content you're watching and the company who's infrastructure is providing it.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by mancerayder »

spauldo wrote: post #220
mancerayder wrote: post #112

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I haven't the first clue about the politics but I'm guessing the response is more toxic than the original message.

IIRC, the guy donated some money to some anti-LGBT groups back when he was CEO of Mozilla Corp. People associated it with Mozilla in general (even though they were personal donations, not from Mozilla) and he ended up having to resign. He then founded Brave. Honesty I feel more antipathy for him (and Andreesen) for saddling us with Javascript, but I understand why people don't want to use his products.

That's fine, and a reasonable reason to dislike and boycott usage. What's weird about the HN response is the silent down voting instead of calm explanation like you just did. The topic turned into moving from Chrome, and only Firefox was essentially mentioned.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by skyyler »

jiggawatts wrote: post #153
slenk wrote: post #134

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> Unfortunately I am too busy to dig through Bugzilla, make an account, etc. only for the bug to be ignored for years like the others... So, if no one reports the bug, how do you expect the bug to get fixed? Instead, you just keep harking back on that unfixed bug whenever Firefox conversations come up and you can be like "but this bug has been around and no one has fixed it"

Are you kidding? Firefox is notorious for having bugs open in core features for over a decade! I’ve found outright broken code, narrowed it down to the specific line, included documentation references, repro steps, etc… only to be totally ignored by the devs. I did get comments from several thousand other frustrated users, but never a Mozilla employee other than the occasional generic or automated housekeeping messag…

Link to your bug report?

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by Crosseye_Jack »

SnowingXIV wrote: post #95

There has to be google engineers here. Does this just fall on deaf ears? I realize it’s a massive corp but imagine high ranking staff have a say and input. Maybe they don’t and Sundar isn’t worried about that. Or they do a simple cost analysis and short-term they see the benefit and are willing to to risk long term erosion that maybe be minimal. Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I m…

> Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I miss.

I fear that Firefox’s days are probably numbered at this point, as it’s (imo) too late to turn the ship.

Firefox/Mozilla gets something in the region of 80% of its revenue from a single source, Google, for the default search engine placement. But with the court finding Google being a Monopoly those payments will probably come to an end.

Apple will be able to tank the loss, sure it will sting, but it’s not like those payments from Google where its main revenue stream.

Firefox/Mozilla on the other hand… It’s one of the reasons they have been other paid for offerings. But once the Google money goes away, who is going to step in to replace it? Bing probably, but without having to compete with Google, you can be sure Bings offer won’t be anywhere near that of Googles.

And that’s even before going into any of the other “happenings” going on.

(I say this as a long term Firefox user, I just fear that its days are numbered at this point, so while I’ll welcome you aboard, and we are not sinking yet, I have worries about that large looking iceberg we seem to be heading for.)

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by afroboy »

bitfilped wrote: post #244
shiroiushi wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to ditch YouTube to avoid annoying commercial breaks. Any decent ad-blocker will skip the ads in YouTube videos, or you can even use an alternative viewer like SmartTube.

Or pay for it and support the people who's content you're watching and the company who's infrastructure is providing it.

Or don't pay for it and you get even a better treatment with hiding ads (SponsorBlock). the free solution is way better than the paid one if we are talking about Youtube.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by delduca »

raydev wrote: post #110
delduca wrote: post #85

Wipr for the win, Chrome nevermore.

Last time I tried Wipr+Safari, it didn't match the power of uBO+Chrome.

I have been using Wipr v2, which achieves a 100% block rate in tests. In comparison, uBlock Origin (uBO) typically reaches 98–99% on the same tests.

The fact that Chrome has nerfed ad blockers prompted me to switch. I have used Chrome consistently since its early alpha versions around 2008.

However, ad blockers are absolutely essential to me. The web is not safe without them.

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