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Re: Grayjay Desktop App

#241

Post by pxoe »

Does this app has any creator monetization in mind, or does 'your way' means 'fuck you, i'm not paying you for shit, i'm just taking it'? None of it is "your content", or their content, it's just someone else's content they're leeching on. "full ownership" - of what?

literally just, what are their thoughts on that. do people deserve being paid? or don't? and if they don't and it's not worth paying for, how is it still worth watching? what is this bizarre mix of disdain and yet desire and entitlement to things, that they'll try to get them in whatever roundabout way, instead of just not watching the thing?

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

#242

Post by Liquix »

pxoe wrote: post #241

Does this app has any creator monetization in mind, or does 'your way' means 'fuck you, i'm not paying you for shit, i'm just taking it'? None of it is "your content", or their content, it's just someone else's content they're leeching on. "full ownership" - of what? literally just, what are their thoughts on that. do people deserve being paid? or don't? and if they don't and it's not worth paying for, how is it stil…

creators deserve to be paid. viewers deserve to not be psychologically manipulated by advertisements and algorithms.

insisting viewers "pay" by subjecting themselves to ads is an unethical business model; refusing to support the practice is a rational reaction.

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

#243

Post by pxoe »

Liquix wrote: post #242
pxoe wrote: post #241

Does this app has any creator monetization in mind, or does 'your way' means 'fuck you, i'm not paying you for shit, i'm just taking it'? None of it is "your content", or their content, it's just someone else's content they're leeching on. "full ownership" - of what? literally just, what are their thoughts on that. do people deserve being paid? or don't? and if they don't and it's not worth paying for, how is it stil…

creators deserve to be paid. viewers deserve to not be psychologically manipulated by advertisements and algorithms. insisting viewers "pay" by subjecting themselves to ads is an unethical business model; refusing to support the practice is a rational reaction.

"rational" as in, rationalizing the contradiction of "not paying" and "getting content anyway". just don't watch. don't support the practice entirely. it's not really as much of a stance as it is just a contrived way to excuse away getting the thing you simultaneously hate and crave. like, the content has already manipulated you even without you paying for it and refusing to pay for it, by making you do this little dance, of trying to get it and trying to rationalize getting it.

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

#244

Post by navane »

pxoe wrote: post #241

Does this app has any creator monetization in mind, or does 'your way' means 'fuck you, i'm not paying you for shit, i'm just taking it'? None of it is "your content", or their content, it's just someone else's content they're leeching on. "full ownership" - of what? literally just, what are their thoughts on that. do people deserve being paid? or don't? and if they don't and it's not worth paying for, how is it stil…

No one is taking YouTube away from you. People make choices. There are many alternatives yet to explore. The network effect, the fact that many people, including me, are on the platform, is a benefit to the platform, more users more worth, yet no one is paying me to be there either.

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

#245

Post by pmontra »

easyKL wrote: post #209
pmontra wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No idea about who Joe Rogan is, maybe because I'm not American and because I use YouTube via NewPipe on Android, almost never inside a browser on my laptop and anyway never logged in with my account. NewPipe doesn't need an account. I can subscribe to channels, bookmark videos and save them to playlists. It's all I need. Not having an account has the disadvantage that I don't have a common list of videos across my de…

On your desktop please try Freetube. You can also import your NewPipe backup (history and subscriptions) Freetube will also allow you to have different profiles, that you could use one per device and regularly import their backups.

I do have Freetube but I forget to use it. I developed the instinct of reaching to my phone or to my tablet when I want to watch a video. The only source of videos on my desktop would be technical stuff embedded in pages from HN but videos are too long (as in time) compared to text so either I read the transcript if available or I skip to the next interesting post.

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

#246

Post by weberer »

pxoe wrote: post #241

Does this app has any creator monetization in mind, or does 'your way' means 'fuck you, i'm not paying you for shit, i'm just taking it'? None of it is "your content", or their content, it's just someone else's content they're leeching on. "full ownership" - of what? literally just, what are their thoughts on that. do people deserve being paid? or don't? and if they don't and it's not worth paying for, how is it stil…

Well its a two way street. Take it up with Google for not offering paid API access so people wouldn't have to rely on hacky web scraping solutions.

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

#247

Post by [deleted] »

navane wrote: post #244
pxoe wrote: post #241

Does this app has any creator monetization in mind, or does 'your way' means 'fuck you, i'm not paying you for shit, i'm just taking it'? None of it is "your content", or their content, it's just someone else's content they're leeching on. "full ownership" - of what? literally just, what are their thoughts on that. do people deserve being paid? or don't? and if they don't and it's not worth paying for, how is it stil…

No one is taking YouTube away from you. People make choices. There are many alternatives yet to explore. The network effect, the fact that many people, including me, are on the platform, is a benefit to the platform, more users more worth, yet no one is paying me to be there either.

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Re: Grayjay Desktop App

#248

Post by paweladamczuk »

pxoe wrote: post #241

Does this app has any creator monetization in mind, or does 'your way' means 'fuck you, i'm not paying you for shit, i'm just taking it'? None of it is "your content", or their content, it's just someone else's content they're leeching on. "full ownership" - of what? literally just, what are their thoughts on that. do people deserve being paid? or don't? and if they don't and it's not worth paying for, how is it stil…

Creator support is probably the reason why Grayjay doesn't have SponsorBlock integration.

What it's trying to bypass is walls being put in place by Youtube after it established itself as a monopoly by leveraging technologies that worked and succeeded because of their no-walls philosophy.

Re: Grayjay Desktop App

#249

Post by [deleted] »

pxoe wrote: post #243
Liquix wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

creators deserve to be paid. viewers deserve to not be psychologically manipulated by advertisements and algorithms. insisting viewers "pay" by subjecting themselves to ads is an unethical business model; refusing to support the practice is a rational reaction.

"rational" as in, rationalizing the contradiction of "not paying" and "getting content anyway". just don't watch. don't support the practice entirely. it's not really as much of a stance as it is just a contrived way to excuse away getting the thing you simultaneously hate and crave. like, the content has already manipulated you even without you paying for it and refusing to pay for it, by making you do this little d…

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Re: Grayjay Desktop App

#250

Post by figmert »

paweladamczuk wrote: post #248
pxoe wrote: post #241

Does this app has any creator monetization in mind, or does 'your way' means 'fuck you, i'm not paying you for shit, i'm just taking it'? None of it is "your content", or their content, it's just someone else's content they're leeching on. "full ownership" - of what? literally just, what are their thoughts on that. do people deserve being paid? or don't? and if they don't and it's not worth paying for, how is it stil…

Creator support is probably the reason why Grayjay doesn't have SponsorBlock integration. What it's trying to bypass is walls being put in place by Youtube after it established itself as a monopoly by leveraging technologies that worked and succeeded because of their no-walls philosophy.

Grayjay does have SponsorBlock
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