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Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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Post by vel0city »

a12k wrote: post #102

I’ve found that the rise of Apply Pay as a payment mechanism on random sites has been helpful in getting me off of Amazon. Often it’s just as easy to order something direct if they have Apple Pay (or ShopPay, but I have other issues with them) and the same price as Amazon. Plus discoverability is awful on Amazon anyways. Still don’t get the Whole Foods return ability when not shopping from Amazon, but not punching in…

> Still don’t get the Whole Foods return ability when not shopping from Amazon

Free returns aren't free. We need to de-normalize this practice of people buying so much junk just to immediately return it.

Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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Post by vel0city »

asah wrote: post #172
a12k wrote: post #102

I’ve found that the rise of Apply Pay as a payment mechanism on random sites has been helpful in getting me off of Amazon. Often it’s just as easy to order something direct if they have Apple Pay (or ShopPay, but I have other issues with them) and the same price as Amazon. Plus discoverability is awful on Amazon anyways. Still don’t get the Whole Foods return ability when not shopping from Amazon, but not punching in…

For me, Amazon cuts delivery times, improves reliability and makes returns 10x easier.

> makes returns 10x easier.

Makes dumping what would otherwise be useful goods into landfills 10x easier*

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Post by iLoveOncall »

hirvi74 wrote: post #205

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In silk bedsheets.

I also don't see how developers have any link with contract negotiations with warehouse workers?

How do you sleep at night knowing that you attack people based on which job they do to provide for their family?

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Post by regnull »

okokhacker wrote: post #223

I’m not sure why the general sentiment here is that Amazon workers do not deserve a living wage and should be replaced with robots. All the best to the union, I sincerely hope they meet your demands.

I don't think it's a question of who deserves what. They deserve a living wage. The kids deserve to get their presents on time. I deserve a pony. The question is how whether to see it as a smart tactical choice to get that they "deserve" or a cynical move to strike when they get maximum publicity and do maximum damage.

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Post by greesil »

billy99k wrote: post #240
okokhacker wrote: post #223

I’m not sure why the general sentiment here is that Amazon workers do not deserve a living wage and should be replaced with robots. All the best to the union, I sincerely hope they meet your demands.

Amazon warehouse work pays almost $20/hour where I live, which is well above the federal minimum wage and more than almost every other company in the area for this type of work. This is a living wage. "should be replaced with robots" I also think it's funny we are having this discussion. When songwriters and other creators were complaining about piracy in the 2000s, the general response from the tech community was th…

Minimum wage != Livable wage

I don't think it's worth considering the comparison.

But sure, maybe working at a distribution center pays well enough where you're located. Likely that's not the case where these strikes are happening. It's expensive out there.

Also, what you wrote gives the impression of "I've got mine already so I don't care what happens to you."

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Post by BugsJustFindMe »

okokhacker wrote: post #223

I’m not sure why the general sentiment here is that Amazon workers do not deserve a living wage and should be replaced with robots. All the best to the union, I sincerely hope they meet your demands.

> I’m not sure why the general sentiment here is that Amazon workers do not deserve a living wage and should be replaced with robots

These are two entirely unrelated issues.

If the world doesn't need a particular task to be done by humans, then the task should be performed by robots.

Until that happens, the workers should be treated humanely.

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Post by thaumasiotes »

asah wrote: post #176
MoreMoore wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really hard to beat Amazon just because of logistics. Amazon tells me if it'll arrive tomorrow or the day after if I order now and I can be 99% sure that it'll be processed today or tomorrow and it'll arrive as expected. Anybody else? I have no idea how long it'll take them to process my order, how long it takes for it to be processed by DHL/DPD/GLS and how long the actual delivery will take.

+1 - when I order on Amazon, it mostly gets here. Others, I suffer stress & distraction.

Hm, I have an active order right now. I ordered three things simultaneously on December 15 with a stated delivery date of December 20, also called out by the website as "arrives before Christmas".

One of those things shipped the next day and is currently reported to be arriving tomorrow, which happens to match the stated delivery date.

The other two have yet to ship, but their delivery date has slipped to "December 21 - 24".

Realistically, they look unlikely to arrive before Christmas, and Amazon seems to feel no need to honor their contract.

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Post by abduhl »

greesil wrote: post #245
billy99k wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon warehouse work pays almost $20/hour where I live, which is well above the federal minimum wage and more than almost every other company in the area for this type of work. This is a living wage. "should be replaced with robots" I also think it's funny we are having this discussion. When songwriters and other creators were complaining about piracy in the 2000s, the general response from the tech community was th…

Minimum wage != Livable wage I don't think it's worth considering the comparison. But sure, maybe working at a distribution center pays well enough where you're located. Likely that's not the case where these strikes are happening. It's expensive out there. Also, what you wrote gives the impression of "I've got mine already so I don't care what happens to you."

Define what a livable wage is then. Is it $25/hr? $50/hr? $100/hr?

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Post by ciabattabread »

rsanek wrote: post #152

10k is about 0.7% of their total employee count. I wonder if this will have any effect.

I wonder that too. They been doing this for a while now around the big shopping holidays. And yet, I never hear about any major disruptions.

Maybe the union needs to change tactics?

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Post by criddell »

Glyptodon wrote: post #235
asah wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, Amazon cuts delivery times, improves reliability and makes returns 10x easier.

Ease of returns is probably the main feature that makes my household have some degree of Amazon preference. But that's increasingly offset by an inability to find quality products.

I'm always surprised how often I contact Amazon to do a return and they refund my money and tell me to keep the item.
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