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Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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post #174

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So you all launched anyway? YOLO embodied entirely I guess...

That is unsurprising and totally wild. Not very confidence inspiring.

Because the tech is in a move fast break things phase, not business critical to anyone and mostly just a toy

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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post #126

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telephony* voice data [*] limited bandwidth (8 kHz), providing a valuable opportunity to enhance and specialize models for telephony applications, ensuring better performance and user experience even with low-fidelity audio inputs.

I mean, nothing prevents them from running their existing data through a "noisy POTS" filter in A/B tests to see how that impacts customer satisfaction. But being able to blame the user's phone line probably goes a long way to avoiding unhappiness due to testing :)

While true... real world wins?

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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post #231

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I haven't seen Anora so I'll give you that one, but you cited that as if it was just one of many examples, when in fact I think it's the only one, as all the other descriptions seem reasonable. Originally the problem was supposedly that it would hallucinate complete and utter gibberish, but now here we are quibbling over one example and insisting that maybe it's not quite as good as alternative descriptions. The gap…

I'm not Alupis. I can't and am not trying to speak on their behalf. I'm therefore not moving the goalposts they established. I'm making my own related point. That point is that the information provided above about these movies is worthless. It does not add any new value beyond what would already be available in the streaming interface. Several of the descriptions are nothing but the genre and one person involved in t…

I'm aware that you're a different commenter but you are addressing yourself to a comment that was in reply to them and therefore not necessarily appropriate to measure such a comment against entirely new criteria that you want to bring into the conversation.

Despite your protestations to the contrary, these descriptions seem perfectly fine in that they're accurate and meaningful. And it if you want to start getting fast and loose with all kinds of new extra criteria and requirements for what it's supposed to do, they all seem squarely within the reach of the capabilities on offer, with some prompt tweaks.

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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post #5

100% shipped to show off to family during Christmas. I'll definitely give it a go, I wonder if this lands better with those aged 50+ who are more used to phone calls rather than chat.

So the perception of those aged 50+, is one of people so far removed from technology they’d prefer to use a telephone to avoid their discomfort with computers? I’m well into this group and still make a lot more api calls than phone calls. Fresh out of college I recall vividly thinking, I’ll need to build an impressive list of side projects to overcome preconceptions about how much I can truly offer at my age. Maybe n…

My dad sells farming-related equipment to mostly older people and there are still people more comfortable giving him their credit card info over the phone instead of purchasing on his website online.

(Though I see that as mostly a failure of our financial industry. Credit card numbers should be obsolete by now.)

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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post #121

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Does anyone else remember a very short lived Google experiment that allowed you to call a number, vocalize your search, and somehow without any additional steps, the results appeared on the browser in front of you? (which was not connected to the phone, or even logged into a Google account)

Sounds impossible. Are you calling on the same phone your browser is?

It might be possible if the browser plays some high frequency inaudible tone that's picked up by the phone

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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post #233

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I haven't seen Anora so I'll give you that one, but you cited that as if it was just one of many examples, when in fact I think it's the only one, as all the other descriptions seem reasonable. Originally the problem was supposedly that it would hallucinate complete and utter gibberish, but now here we are quibbling over one example and insisting that maybe it's not quite as good as alternative descriptions. The gap…

> I haven't seen Anora so I'll give you that one It was literally the first movie in that list. You tried making a counter example and the first part of it was already wrong. That’s the point. Not that it _cant_ give good answers, but whether it does or not is a crap shoot. Now to analyze how correct it was we need to verify each movie it gave… It’d be faster just to read the movie descriptions.

You're still trying to imply that the list as a whole is as inaccurate as that one particular example.

And I think that's quite obviously not the case, most, probably every other example on the list is just fine.

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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post #108

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Umm... do you actually know anyone 50+? You know, for instance, the co-authors of "AI: A Modern Approach" are both 50+?

? why is the authorship of this book relevant

Because it shows that it's perfectly plausible for people ages 50 plus to appreciate the value out of these technologies every bit as much as us whippersnappers. Some of them are writing books about it, after all

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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post #130

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I've asked it for things like book recommendations and gotten: - completely made up books - real books that were only marginally related - real books with really bad reviews I'd estimate that only 30-40% of the time did I find the results at all useful.

stop using it like a database that you can query

I wonder how many people are promoting it correctly. You can’t just query it like you might for google or something. It works best with lots of context and back and forth. And yeah, for many things you are going to get directional answers not exact ones (esp with “rote memory” like exact quotes from a book or something.)

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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post #130

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I've asked it for things like book recommendations and gotten: - completely made up books - real books that were only marginally related - real books with really bad reviews I'd estimate that only 30-40% of the time did I find the results at all useful.

stop using it like a database that you can query

Agreed this is a bad idea in the case you are replying to, but I love ChatGPT as a way to recover the name of a book or film I’ve forgotten. I recently prompted for “a book about nuclear wasteland dominated by a church” and it gave me A canticle for Leibowitz (which is great). I’m not sure how easy that would be any other way.

Re: 1-800-ChatGPT

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post #177
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Calling it now: Google will ultimately lose this consumer battle. How? By doing what they've always done: building better tech. Gemini will be faster/better and it will have more features; but they will continue to fail to productize or explain it to consumers. Google's offerings here are still a huge mess. OpenAI is crushing them right now at building products that people want, and making them accessible.

Have you been paying attention at all these past few weeks? Google is crushing it with releases. Gemini 2.0 is great, Veo2 is crushing Sora, live video conversation from aistudio... 12 days of OpenAI turned out to be 12 days of Google.

Google's recent launches have been technically impressive (especially Veo 2), but given the company's past track record on creating new products, I'm not very bullish that they can turn those launches into products with the same excitement and sense of direction as OpenAI at least appears to have. Google has the benefit of having platforms that span billions of devices and people, but with the looming threat of antitrust regulation, I'm not so sure they'll have the benefit of the last thing for long. Granted, I doubt that 1-800-ChatGPT will be a significant source of users for the product, but it does signal some of the creativity from the company that seems to be escaping Google regularly (see: NotebookLM's leads leaving to form their own startup).
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