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In Defense of Y'All

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Re: In Defense of Y'All

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post #11

I tease non-Texans that Texan English is actually superior to normal American English because it supports second-person plural via "Y'all" exactly as mentioned in this article... "you guys" is, to some ears, sexist, and "youse guys" (a New York-ism) is a little too old-school Italian. English lost its second person plural when we switched from Thou (second person singular formal + Thee=second person singular informal…

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Re: In Defense of Y'All

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a native midwesterner, I get more annoyed and defensive than I should when people complain that “you guys” isnt gender neutral. Where I come from, everyone is “a guy”. It can mean “male person”, but that’s only if you use it in specific contexts that brings up gender (like saying “guys and gals”).

It's a sentiment that's only come up in the past 15 years. Same with the "Latinx" bullshit (that white people came up with)

latinx is nothing compared to "folx"

Re: In Defense of Y'All

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post #122

I still don't understand why some Hollywood writers are so out of touch with reality that they create characters with horrible fake Southern accents saying "y'all" as a singular pronoun. Nobody would actually do that unless they have brain damage.

Yes! I commented elsewhere on the same thing. I would love to know how and where that started. It seems to be "one of those things that everybody knows" that has never actually been true.

Re: In Defense of Y'All

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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>who are latin@ Is that a real thing or are you joking?

Considering the comment history of the person you are talking to (basically only ever replies to fight over social justice), I think they must be mentioning a real trend.

Re: In Defense of Y'All

#249

As a southern from the New Orleans area, ya'll is as natural a part of everyday language as it comes, and generally when it is heard by people who aren't from the south it comes off as smug, or cringe. Generally because they put a strong emphasis on the world, when it is rarely warranted. It's like when people try to pronounce "New Orleans" as "nawlins" (to be clear, no one native says it this way, its tourist trap t…

"but I doubt anyone in the south (outside of the irish channel) really gives the New York Times opinion on southern language much of a second thought."

Weird take. It's not like just because some portion of a Southern state is anti-elitist or whatever the state is devoid of New York Times readers. I grew up in a middle class setting in the South and every house I ever entered had a copy of The New Yorker. There are NPR stations all over the country. The South is not a mono-culture.

Re: In Defense of Y'All

#250

The new second person plural is "chat". I can't decide if I'm making a joke or not by saying that.

"chat" is a fourth person pronoun, it's a hivemind pronoun.

...which works both as an extension of first/second/third person pronouns, and "breaking the fourth wall".
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