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Post by astrange »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #206
astrange wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want better healthcare you don't need to invent anything new or "disrupt systems of oppression". Just pick another country where it's working and do what they do. Largely, they have a lot more doctors, hospitals and MRI machines per capita than we do, and they pay their doctors less and require less education from them. This is particularly safer in America because the #1 thing voters hate is anyone doing anyt…

> If you want better healthcare you don't need to invent anything new or "disrupt systems of oppression". Just pick another country where it's working and do what they do. Sure. That's like telling me that if I want to win an Olympic gold medal, I should just do what Phelps does. It'll work, right? Even those countries may only have metastable healthcare economics, and while it looks as if it works now it could fail…

You can simply buy more MRI machines and open more hospitals, yes.

The US has "certificate of need" laws saying you can't open a hospital unless all the nearby competitors allow it first. We could just not do that.

> Sure. That's like telling me that if I want to win an Olympic gold medal, I should just do what Phelps does. It'll work, right?

America is the #1 country at a lot of things. Surely you're not going to let Australia, Japan, the Netherlands etc beat you on this.

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Post by BurningFrog »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #141
breadwinner wrote: post #44

He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.

If that's the case, you make a call to a reporter — and then walk into a police station to surrender to authorities.

Only if you have no sense for drama.

That's not this guy.

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Post by mewpmewp2 »

jmyeet wrote: post #216
Bjorkbat wrote: post #66

I'm weirdly not too surprised due to this belief I have that software developers would make effective criminals. A lot of this boils down to a belief I have that not getting caught in the first place is easy. Murders have something like a 50% solve rate and you can decrease your chances of getting caught with a little knowledge on how to evade common forensic techniques along with some planning. Those who get caught…

Murder is a really interesting crime. There are really two kinds of murder: those where the perpetrator and victim are known to each other and those where they are not. The first category is way more common [1]: > Among homicides in which the relationship could be determined, between 21% and 27% of homicides were committed by strangers and between 73% and 79% were committed by offenders known to the victims Another d…

I think it was insane to go somewhere like McDonalds or anywhere, even the Starbucks anytime near that time period. There was just no need. Unless he was toying with the idea of getting caught, surely he would have just gone to some prebooked motel type of thing somewhere far away and huddled in there for quite a bit.

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Post by energy123 »

xyst wrote: post #200
JKCalhoun wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More or less lays out his motive right there. I disagree with his thoughts on violence. When you try to solve a problem by inviting violence to dinner you'll find you have a guest you are unable to excuse.

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Take a moment to refresh your memory of the Pol Pot regime. If half the population aren't literally getting bludgeoned to death in the streets, remember it can get so, so much worse, so tread carefully with accelerationist sentiments.

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Post by rangestransform »

astrange wrote: post #106
crawfordcomeaux wrote: post #33

With programmers, hackers, computer scientists, systems designers/engineers carrying some of the most privileged skillsets needed for designing and implementing replacements to systems of oppression (and disruptions to said systems), I've been wondering where the ones working to do this can be found. I learned in Computer Ethics 101 about how the history of the development of radiological machines led to the realizat…

If you want better healthcare you don't need to invent anything new or "disrupt systems of oppression". Just pick another country where it's working and do what they do. Largely, they have a lot more doctors, hospitals and MRI machines per capita than we do, and they pay their doctors less and require less education from them. This is particularly safer in America because the #1 thing voters hate is anyone doing anyt…

Unfortunately we have the AMA which won’t let us import or bulk train doctors to the point of depressing their salaries

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Post by warner25 »

senderista wrote: post #119

Some perspective: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/insurance-companies-arent-the-...

This reminds me of two excellent back-to-back episodes of This American Life in 2009, when the debate leading up to the Affordable Care Act was at its peak: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/391/more-is-less and https://www.thisamericanlife.org/392/someone-elses-money

It has been a while since I listened to these episodes, but my main recollection is the argument that insurers are the only entities in the system actually fighting to reduce costs (and, of course, high costs are what underlie most of the other problems with the US healthcare system).

To be clear, I don't think insurers (and United Healthcare in particular) and their owners (all of us with index funds in our retirement accounts?) and boards and executives are blameless, but I do think this idea should be more central to the discussion and less contrarian.

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Post by njtransit »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #223
JKCalhoun wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More or less lays out his motive right there. I disagree with his thoughts on violence. When you try to solve a problem by inviting violence to dinner you'll find you have a guest you are unable to excuse.

Violence is very effective. The authorities use it to subjugate the population and the American military uses the threat of violence and the action of actual violence to keep the United States the way it is. Except when it is used by governments, it is often called defense and when it is used by the police it is often called 'keeping the peace'. Violence as a tool for revolution is quite effective -- only pacifism is…

Violence certainly can be effective, but also not. Everything is situational. See the Black Panthers vs. peaceful protesting during the civil rights movement. See also the American Revolution. Whether or not violence makes sense likely depends on how strong you and your friends are.

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Post by shiroiushi »

astrange wrote: post #106
crawfordcomeaux wrote: post #33

With programmers, hackers, computer scientists, systems designers/engineers carrying some of the most privileged skillsets needed for designing and implementing replacements to systems of oppression (and disruptions to said systems), I've been wondering where the ones working to do this can be found. I learned in Computer Ethics 101 about how the history of the development of radiological machines led to the realizat…

If you want better healthcare you don't need to invent anything new or "disrupt systems of oppression". Just pick another country where it's working and do what they do. Largely, they have a lot more doctors, hospitals and MRI machines per capita than we do, and they pay their doctors less and require less education from them. This is particularly safer in America because the #1 thing voters hate is anyone doing anyt…

>If you want better healthcare you don't need to invent anything new or "disrupt systems of oppression". Just pick another country where it's working and do what they do.

This is completely impossible. We're talking about America here: it's utterly impossible for America to look at other countries and just copy them. It doesn't matter how much sense it would make; if America has a choice between sticking with some brain-dead system (perhaps, a measurement system for instance), or adopting a very logical and sensible alternative that America didn't invent, America will stick with its own brain-dead system, and claim that the alternative somehow can't possibly work in America because America is "different" and "exceptional". The only way America will adopt something new and better is if it's invented in America.

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