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I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by andrewflnr »

esperent wrote: post #238
andrewflnr wrote: post #226

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They're not really considered as such by motorcycle people, for decent reasons too. Scooters generally have rather different ergonomics and controls, notably CVTs rather than manual transmissions for "proper" motorcycles. Overall a pretty different experience to ride. There's not really a good umbrella term, either, though.

I live in Vietnam where the entire population drives small motorbikes or scooters. There's no defining feature except for having a cutaway to place your feet in a scooter. Even the engine placement is less of a clear thing now that many of them are electric. There's motorbikes with scooter like controls, there's scooters with motorbike like controls. Many small automatic motorbikes feel basically identical to driving…

Presumably an American motorcycle purist's brain would simply explode in such an environment. :)

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by webspinner »

RobMurray wrote: post #74

I am also blind. hCaptcha is the worst. Their stupid cookie expires so I have to go through their getting an email to set the cookie almost every time I encounter one. It's a horrendous UX, especially when using different devices and browsers. I imagine others just give up instead of dealing with the crap. They shouldn't use the word accessibility when their whole service is the exact opposite. The bots can probably…

First of all, why should I want them to set a cooky on my system? I don't want them to do that. Yeah, I do use session cookies. However, I shouldn't have to have a company set one on my system to get around their stupid CAPTCHA!! In other words, I shouldn't have to disclose anything to them. I could be an AI for all they care.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by webspinner »

burningChrome wrote: post #182
nmarinov wrote: post #167

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What's the best captcha regarding accessibility?

None. There are no "best" version of captcha. I've worked on several large scale projects where captcha was floated and then quickly abandoned in favor of other methods like Honeypot or using other methods to weed out bots and other 3rd party agents. If you have to use captcha the least worst are probably reCaptcha V2 and hCaptcha for accessibility.

I'm OK with reCAPTCHA, but uh... Just not a fan of Google!! I'm an expert reCAPTCHA solver.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by webspinner »

RobMurray wrote: post #88
ta1243 wrote: post #22

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Sorry I live in the west, what's a "crosswalk" Did you mean to say > not everyone lives in the USA Other things I don't have a clue about - a fire hydrant, yellow taxis, yellow buses (Obviously I do, because of American cultural imperialism through things like Captchas which mean the world has to understand American cultural touchstones)

And audio Captchas are in English. I suppose blind people who don't speak English or have any kind of hearing difficulty don't deserve accessibility.

Can you have them translated into your native language? I mean I imagine if your using Google from a different country, it might take notice. Maybe it doesn't apply to reCAPTCHA, Google can be stupid like that!

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by webspinner »

RobMurray wrote: post #221
sundarurfriend wrote: post #209

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Avoiding this is what made hCaptcha popular among a lot of users in the first place. reCaptcha has always been guilty of this, and it doesn't seem like they're taking any steps to improve this US-centred definition of humanity. hCaptcha gave much more general and neutral puzzles that made a lot of people (including me) give a sigh of relief when they encountered a CAPTCHA and it was h and not re.

recaptcha audio challenge is just a few words (in English) that you have to enter. Might be easier in some circumstances? You can press CTRL to repeat the audio.

I like it myself. If I have to use CAPTCHA that is, I can't stand it on principle!

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by webspinner »

inetknght wrote: post #32
michaelt wrote: post #26

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> As big as Google, Facebook, or Amazon are, they would struggle under the load of trying to create a system for determining who is "truly" blind... and that's still true if we ignore questions like exactly what "blind" is anyhow. In several countries, the government issues certificates of blindness [1] which grant access to certain extra types of support. We don't want severely vision-impaired people being forced to…

> So there are legal standards for what exactly blind is, and certificates. In the USA, people are not yet required to provide identification when signing up for "free" services. There are real concerns around privacy. A certification of blindness is exactly one of those privacy concerns, being a medical issue. You think it would be a good idea to give that private information to the criminal organizations of big tec…

I would have a privacy concern with it, and then your going to force everyone to do verification. Age verification isn't even passed here in the US, although a lot of companies do it. They wanted to make it law over the last couple years.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by webspinner »

blindgeek wrote: post #4
yorwba wrote: post #3

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I wonder whether talking about "looking at the javascript console" somehow made them think that this person cannot possibly be blind, since how could a blind person "see" the JavaScript console? (But "having my screen reader read the content of the JavaScript console to me" is a bit of a mouthful.)

You know, that's a good point, and it hadn't occurred to me. For the overwhelming majority of blind people, language like "looked at" is just metaphorical. I mean, all language is symbolic anyway. The map is not the territory and the menu is not the dinner. Some of us are taught very young to use common terms like look in that kind of a metaphorical way. Partially so that we fit in and are comfortable with the rest o…

Yes that's my mother.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by webspinner »

blindgeek wrote: post #191

And the very angry email that I (probably unwisely) just dashed off to support@hcaptcha.com: "So I've been trying to sign in repeatedly to set the accessibility cookie since last night. Every time I click the submit button, I get the useless error message "an error has occurred, please try again". My friend, who shares my roof and my static IP, got banned from hcaptcha's accessibility service last year for being too…

Yeah, sue them. They'll love that.

Re: I was banned from the hCaptcha accessibility account for not being blind (2023)

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Post by School-Cotton »

thebruce87m wrote: post #212
bux93 wrote: post #44

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90210 (Cue theme music in mind's ear)

That’s my zip code too, along with millions of others who live outside the US. Haven’t needed to use it for a while.

Similarly, on websites that require a British address I use “10 Downing Street” (the only one I know!)
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