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Re: Bluesky is currently gaining more than 1M users a day

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Post by stormfather »

UltraSane wrote: post #240
stormfather wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your two examples of "lies, conspiracy theories, fantastical inventions" were that minimum wage wage costs jobs and that tax cuts generate growth. You are under the impression that there is broad economic consensus on these assertions to the point that they are "proven" false. Just from some cursory searching this doesn't seem to be the case. For instance: """ Steve Kaplan of Chicago Booth strongly agreed that raisin…

I really hate the fact that we live in a world where people object to raising the $7.50 minimum wage while a single man is worth more than $200 billion.

Well that is something we agree on. Minimum wage should be livable and pegged to inflation, and the reason its not is because the rich have too much power.

Re: Bluesky is currently gaining more than 1M users a day

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Post by UltraSane »

stormfather wrote: post #241
UltraSane wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really hate the fact that we live in a world where people object to raising the $7.50 minimum wage while a single man is worth more than $200 billion.

Well that is something we agree on. Minimum wage should be livable and pegged to inflation, and the reason its not is because the rich have too much power.

Pegging minimum wage to inflation would cause a feed back loop. I think it should be set to average rental prices in the city the job is in. 40 hours of after tax minimum wage wages should be 1 month's rent for a one bedroom apartment.

Re: Bluesky is currently gaining more than 1M users a day

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Post by vidarh »

ericjmorey wrote: post #84
m3kw9 wrote: post #65

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why isn't mastodon one of the winners like bluesky?

Its fundamental design lacks the ability to provide features that many people want, because the developers see those features as anti-features to be avoided. Bluesky's AT Protocol was developed specifically to address what they saw as shortcomings with the ActivityPub protocol used by Mastodon and other similar services.

My impression from conversations here is that the AT protocol largely came from the developers being unaware of how they could've achieved the same thing with no or minimal extensions to ActivityPub. There may or may not be actual benefits to the protocol, but they could have achieved a far smaller delta and largely kept interoperability without any major sacrifices.

Re: Bluesky is currently gaining more than 1M users a day

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Post by vidarh »

crazygringo wrote: post #160
nicce wrote: post #96

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> The infrastructure has been rock-solid. I’ve never seen a service grow this fast without any noticeable outages. The architecture and execution are obviously informed by serious experience at Twitter, but it’s also clear that management is giving them everything they need to do the job right. The world has changed quite bit. If you have deep pockets and you can use AWS etc., it isn't a major problem anymore. Howeve…

> it isn't a major problem anymore This is not true at all. The hard part isn't cloud vs. on-premise, it's the architecture. Most sites can either put all their data in a single massive database, or else have an obvious dimension to shard by (e.g. by user ID if users mostly interact with their own data). But sites where the data is many-to-many and there's a firehose of writes, of which Twitter is a prime example, ar…

> Every single user gets an updated live feed of tweets drawn from every other user -- handling millions of users simultaneously is not easy.

This is a trivial approach, which works but is suboptimal (you can cut down on the IO with various optimisations):

Shard by id. Treat it as messages queues. Think e-mail, with a lookup from public id -> internal id @ shard.

Then, additionally, every account that gets more than n followers are sharded into "sub-accounts", where posts to the main account are transparently "reposted" to the sub-accounts, just like simple mailing list reflector.

(the first obvious optimization to this is to drop propagation of posts from accounts that will hit a large proportion of users, and weave those into timelines on read/generation instead of writing them to each user; second is to drop propagation of posts to accounts that have not been accessed for a while, and instead take the expensive generation step of pulling posts to create the timeline next time they log in; there are many more, but even with the naive approach outlined above this is a solved problem)

Re: Bluesky is currently gaining more than 1M users a day

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Post by vidarh »

xboxnolifes wrote: post #151
nicce wrote: post #96

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> The infrastructure has been rock-solid. I’ve never seen a service grow this fast without any noticeable outages. The architecture and execution are obviously informed by serious experience at Twitter, but it’s also clear that management is giving them everything they need to do the job right. The world has changed quite bit. If you have deep pockets and you can use AWS etc., it isn't a major problem anymore. Howeve…

I'm not so sure about this when not even 24 hours ago Netflix has streaming issues running on AWS infrastructure, and existing social media sites still have outages.

Netflix runs core services in AWS, but streaming goes via Open Connect, which involves appliances in the networks of major ISPs.

The Open Connect Wikipedia page [1] currently claims 8,000+ Open Connect Appliances at more than 1,000 ISPs as of 2021, and OCA's in over 52 interchange points.

Netflix is shuffling data at a scale nobody outside maybe a dozen other companies globally needs to deal with, and I doubt any of the social media sites come close.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Connect

Re: Bluesky is currently gaining more than 1M users a day

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Post by jjulius »

quantadev wrote: post #212
xk_id wrote: post #211

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The bottom line is that your first post is a mirror reflection of yourself. Beyond this, I don't really care how you excuse your hypocrisy.

Guilty as charged. Meant every word.

That you had previously spent a good chunk of time arguing on HN in favor of free speech at all costs, only to turn around and wish for speech to be removed from those who you disagree with, is... wow. Literally nothing you have said can be taken in good faith or at face value at this point.

Re: Bluesky is currently gaining more than 1M users a day

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Post by quantadev »

jjulius wrote: post #247
quantadev wrote: post #212

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Guilty as charged. Meant every word.

That you had previously spent a good chunk of time arguing on HN in favor of free speech at all costs, only to turn around and wish for speech to be removed from those who you disagree with, is... wow. Literally nothing you have said can be taken in good faith or at face value at this point.

--OR-- Free Speech is about what the Gov't can do.

Like the Democrats said for the past 10 years, platforms should be free to disallow 'bad' content. For 10 years Democrat-run Twitter treated Conservatives VERY badly. Now the only difference is "The Tables Have Turned".

I hope Elon also follows the Democrat example by setting up Federal Gov't (headed by Trump) direct access to a portal on X.com (Twitter) which lets the Conservatives do what the Democrats were doing, and ban people form the platform for PURELY POLITICAL reasons. If it was legal when ya'll did it, it's legal when we do it.

Re: Bluesky is currently gaining more than 1M users a day

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Post by jjulius »

quantadev wrote: post #248
jjulius wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That you had previously spent a good chunk of time arguing on HN in favor of free speech at all costs, only to turn around and wish for speech to be removed from those who you disagree with, is... wow. Literally nothing you have said can be taken in good faith or at face value at this point.

--OR-- Free Speech is about what the Gov't can do. Like the Democrats said for the past 10 years, platforms should be free to disallow 'bad' content. For 10 years Democrat-run Twitter treated Conservatives VERY badly. Now the only difference is "The Tables Have Turned". I hope Elon also follows the Democrat example by setting up Federal Gov't (headed by Trump) direct access to a portal on X.com (Twitter) which lets t…

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unhinged

Re: Bluesky is currently gaining more than 1M users a day

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Post by quantadev »

jjulius wrote: post #249
quantadev wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

--OR-- Free Speech is about what the Gov't can do. Like the Democrats said for the past 10 years, platforms should be free to disallow 'bad' content. For 10 years Democrat-run Twitter treated Conservatives VERY badly. Now the only difference is "The Tables Have Turned". I hope Elon also follows the Democrat example by setting up Federal Gov't (headed by Trump) direct access to a portal on X.com (Twitter) which lets t…

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unhinged

Gov't Censorship of Twitter is definitely "unhinged", and Democrats invented it.
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