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Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Post by tomrod »

degosuke wrote: post #46
tomrod wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've had enough of that, thank you. What I've found is you'll find open discussion and real free speech versus whatever Musk tried to implement at Twitter.

I'm not up to speed. Are there currently any instances where free speech was limited on x/twitter? Genuinely curious

Several. Consider ElonJet as a silly but representative example of where the limits of free speech are considered for the far right.

Hate speech and harassment is totally fine, but not critique.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ElonJet

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Post by MeetingsBrowser »

purplethinking wrote: post #216
MeetingsBrowser wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What specific type of content was being censored before Elon took over that is being allowed now?

https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/115286/documents/... "“A new [Twitter Files] investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics — all in secret, without informing users,” Weiss wrote in a tweet Thursday." It's a very enlightening document, I recommend a full read throug…

The same kind of censorship seems to still be happening on Twitter.

Joe Biden laptop was blocked before, J.D. Vance dossier is blocked today.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Post by theshrike79 »

sundarurfriend wrote: post #44
declan_roberts wrote: post #19

Bluesky to me still seems like a place completely dominated by software type (HN crowd). I know there are obvious exceptions there's no need for you to list them. Threads has extreme normies, bluesky has the nerds, and twitter seems to have just the right mixture of both.

This thread (no pun intended) is the first I'm hearing that anyone uses Threads at all. To me, it seemed like after the initial week or so, there was only bots left on Threads, trying to hook people to the person's Instagram, or whatever other place they actually post content at.

Threads isn't a place where I specifically go to follow someone. To me it's more like TikTok, but text.

I open it, get a few random engagement bait posts, maybe reply to some and then close it. No meaningful discussion will happen.

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Post by elforce002 »

bbzealot wrote: post #236
elforce002 wrote: post #235

To be honest, bluesky will become the left version of "Truth social". That's good for them in the long run (ad money) but it'll be another echo chamber. I follow both left-leaning and right-leaning people on Twitter and I don't see the "balance" going one way or another. The other thing is reach. Twitter, Fb, Instagram are global brands. It'll be really, and I mean difficult to move the rest of the world to other pla…

How can a platform owned by a far-right man with a clear political agenda be the place for "political balance"? It's inevitable that left-leaning people will increasingly leave Twitter, as long as it is run by Musk

Musk was left-leaning not so long ago. I follow left-leaning media (WYT, Pod Save America, etc...) and right-leaning media (Ben Shapiro, etc...) equally and see both posts without any issues. If the left-leaning people leave Twitter, the new platform will become an echo chamber the same way Reddit, gab, parler, and Truth Social are.

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Post by bbzealot »

elforce002 wrote: post #244
bbzealot wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can a platform owned by a far-right man with a clear political agenda be the place for "political balance"? It's inevitable that left-leaning people will increasingly leave Twitter, as long as it is run by Musk

Musk was left-leaning not so long ago. I follow left-leaning media (WYT, Pod Save America, etc...) and right-leaning media (Ben Shapiro, etc...) equally and see both posts without any issues. If the left-leaning people leave Twitter, the new platform will become an echo chamber the same way Reddit, gab, parler, and Truth Social are.

> Musk was left-leaning not so long ago

So what? He's been clearly far right leaning since before he purchased Twitter.

He's been one of the main supporters of the Trump campaign and he's vocal about his political ideas. Twitter has no credibility as a neutral platform as long as it's run by him

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Post by elforce002 »

bbzealot wrote: post #245
elforce002 wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk was left-leaning not so long ago. I follow left-leaning media (WYT, Pod Save America, etc...) and right-leaning media (Ben Shapiro, etc...) equally and see both posts without any issues. If the left-leaning people leave Twitter, the new platform will become an echo chamber the same way Reddit, gab, parler, and Truth Social are.

> Musk was left-leaning not so long ago So what? He's been clearly far right leaning since before he purchased Twitter. He's been one of the main supporters of the Trump campaign and he's vocal about his political ideas. Twitter has no credibility as a neutral platform as long as it's run by him

I beg to differ. It's important because I can equally see both left and right posts. If you consume more left-leaning posts, you'll get more of that content. My feed is Web Dev, Machine Learning, Mobile Dev, etc... you have to be hardcore right to get anything related to that (same goes if you consume left-leaning posts).

In the end, people will choose their echo chamber no matter if they know it's an echo chamber. I try to be as impartial as possible. I use Twitter, Reddit (specific subs), and occasionally, IG. I have a tiktok acct but I rarely use it.

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Post by bbzealot »

elforce002 wrote: post #246
bbzealot wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Musk was left-leaning not so long ago So what? He's been clearly far right leaning since before he purchased Twitter. He's been one of the main supporters of the Trump campaign and he's vocal about his political ideas. Twitter has no credibility as a neutral platform as long as it's run by him

I beg to differ. It's important because I can equally see both left and right posts. If you consume more left-leaning posts, you'll get more of that content. My feed is Web Dev, Machine Learning, Mobile Dev, etc... you have to be hardcore right to get anything related to that (same goes if you consume left-leaning posts). In the end, people will choose their echo chamber no matter if they know it's an echo chamber. I…

My feed was mostly leftist but since musk took over I started seeing a lot of musk posts and far-right propaganda.

Twitter is far from being a neutral platform.

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Post by josteink »

kstrauser wrote: post #122
josteink wrote: post #104

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Mastadon has a massive problem with furries, people with loli anime-avatars or people who fit the «purple haired» stereotype. It’s very off-putting and alienating for normal people.

Mastodon’s only algorithm is newest-on-top, so your complaint is that the people you’re following seem strange to you. Uh, follow other people then.

This was my experience trying to find and instance to join. And as a result I didn't join any.

I'm pretty sure most "normal" people would react in a similar fashion, which kind of makes this a notable catch-22 for wider Mastadon-adaption.

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Post by purplethinking »

MeetingsBrowser wrote: post #242
purplethinking wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/115286/documents/... "“A new [Twitter Files] investigation reveals that teams of Twitter employees build blacklists, prevent disfavored tweets from trending, and actively limit the visibility of entire accounts or even trending topics — all in secret, without informing users,” Weiss wrote in a tweet Thursday." It's a very enlightening document, I recommend a full read throug…

The same kind of censorship seems to still be happening on Twitter. Joe Biden laptop was blocked before, J.D. Vance dossier is blocked today.

Was there anything controversial in that dossier? The Guardian claims it was blocked for leaking JD Vance social security number

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Post by AlexeyBelov »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #205
MeetingsBrowser wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What specific type of content was being censored before Elon took over that is being allowed now?

In the particular little culture war concerning gender identity, pre Elon you would get banned for "deadnaming" and criticizing the health claims of gender clinics (aka transphobia) It's flipped now, Elon has tweeted that using cis to describe not-trans people is a slur. Which seems like going the other way on "free speech absolutism" but whatever.

To your first point: I've seen accounts not being banned for years doing exactly that intentionally.
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