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Isn't steamdeck a better option for this use case?

On SteamDeck Geforce Now is limited to 1080p, due to NVIDIA being a tiny indie company with no resources to make a native client.

This is, of course, a non issue as the resolution of the Steam Deck is 1280x800.

Edit: I am silly. Of course, people mean hooking it up to a bigger screen.

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> Mac mini is made with over 50 percent recycled content overall, including 100 percent recycled aluminum in the enclosure, 100 percent recycled gold plating in all Apple-designed printed circuit boards, and 100 percent recycled rare earth elements in all magnets. The electricity used to manufacture Mac mini is sourced from 100 percent renewable electricity. And, to address 100 percent of the electricity customers us…

The Apple employees who worked on this product cause a lot of CO2 emissions just living their lives. I'm guessing Apple didn't try to offset that CO2.

Just like all of us. Your spending is a pretty good measure of your impact on the climate.

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Honestly, I wish they'd go with an external USB-C power brick. The only reason they might not is that they want to keep everything across the entire line, and the highest end Mac Studio probably needs more power than USB can offer.

Why would you prefer an external power brick? The internal power supplies in Mac minis have been extremely reliable and the fewer cables the better, in my opinion.

There can be advantages to an external brick, but I see parent's comment mostly centered on having USB-C as input.

That gives a lot more options IMHO on how to handle power for this machine, including portability, even if it's supposed to be a desktop machine.

I thought the same for the minisforum machines which would be competitive to this, they have a 19V input that really should be USB-C at this point.

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Are these games available on OSX? Or are you somehow booting Windows? (Apologies if this seems like a stupid question. I've not played games for a very long time, mainly because most stuff doesn't seem to be available on Macs).

It's not a dumb question. I actually used to use an iMac 27" with an Nvidia 680 that I would boot into Bootcamp / Windows for my primary gaming computer. I covered it in "built, not bought" stickers at Quakecon one year. You can't do x86/x64 Windows on M-series Macs without emulation and it is generally a poor experience. There's a few things like Crossover, Parallels, etc that can help you run Windows games. But I h…

I'm wondering if it might actually be easier to install Asahi Linux (or some other distro) on Apple Silicon for gaming via Proton, until Game Porting Toolkit is adopted more.

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Base model is 256GB configurable up to 2TB, all others start at 512GB, the M4 Pro model can go up to 8TB

It's $800 to go up to 2TB from the 256GB model which is just criminally over priced. I can get double that for half the price with a Gen 4 NVMe drive. Weirdly the 8TB drive on the Pro is at least in line with the top of the line 8TB NVMe SSDs you can buy though there are cheaper options at about $600 vs the $1200 Apple is charging.

> I can get double that for half the price with a Gen 4 NVMe drive

It's worse than that -- 4TB gen 4 drives can be had for well under $300, sometimes $225-250, and that's for buying a drive outright, not "trading up" from a 256GB device. I think it'd be more accurate to say that you can get double the capacity for a _quarter_ of the price.

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> Neither MacOS nor Windows are very good console OSes They're great OSes for consumers who don't really work on their computers, and just want something that caters to the lowest common denominator. For professionals who use computers for work, Linux is really the only option that doesn't eventually get in your way. You can set it up and leave it as-is, with only security updates, and everything keeps working the sa…

> For professionals who use computers for work, Linux is really the only option that doesn't eventually get in your way. I really hope you're not expecting anyone to take you seriously with this. On principle I get what you're saying but in practice no one who works as a professional in any field has the time (or expertise) to be worried about configuring their operating system. As a Linux evangelist who begrudgingly…

Most professionals use only a handful of software and don't really care about the OS other than what the OS should do (file management, connecting to the internet, launching software,...). Apple and Microsoft insists on doing other stuff that impedes you while not allowing you to do basic stuff you want. The main issue with Linux is hardware support (which no one other than the manufactures can solve properly) and professional development (The distributions are great, but monolithic development like FreeBSD would have been better).

Linux is best because it lets you use your computer for whatever workflow you need.

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It's $800 to go up to 2TB from the 256GB model which is just criminally over priced. I can get double that for half the price with a Gen 4 NVMe drive. Weirdly the 8TB drive on the Pro is at least in line with the top of the line 8TB NVMe SSDs you can buy though there are cheaper options at about $600 vs the $1200 Apple is charging.

That's regular Apple pricing for you. Great deals on the baseline models, but insane margins on the upgrades that make them usable. And of course the ability to upgrade the devices yourself has been phased out in the name of performance and power efficiency

At least on the storage side, Apple's parts are neither more performant nor all that much more power-efficient than a standard, replaceable SSD.

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This is huge for AI / ML at least for inference. Apple chips are among the most efficient out there for that sort of thing, the only downside is the lack of cuda

Lack of Cuda is not a problem if for most ML frameworks. For example, in PyTorch you just tell it to use the “mps” (metal performance shaders) device instead of the “cuda” device.

Cuda Apple license it from nVidia?
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