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Re: Accountability sinks

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You're confusing terms here. Voter fraud is fraud by voter. This is not what we're talking about with the voting machine susceptibility.

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Here is a definition of voter fraud.

https://www.browardvotes.gov/voter-information/voter-fraud

Re: Accountability sinks

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That's a really thought provoking article. And my thinking is this highlights the importance of government consumer protection agency/laws as the protection against that. I.e. when you fly through Europe or use European airlines, there is this EU law that gives you compensation of ~ 600 EUR if your flight is delayed by more than 3 hours or cancelled or whatever. This is a good insurance that no matter what BS is thro…

And the process of getting the money is reasonably straightforward. Not always. The airlines often lie.

At least in my experience, I asked for compensation 3 times and got the money in every case (with different companies: American Airlines, United and Lufthansa). But I agree the system could be improved further.

Re: Accountability sinks

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The German mail rail and track operator (Deutsche Bahn) isn't private but 100% state owned (and control sits with the federal government). They wanted to privatize it a couple of decades ago but abandoned it. There is still some hybridization between supposedly it being a business and also a public service left in the law, though.

The actual root is even widely acknowledged: DB has been underfunded for a long time.

It’s an AG, why should it be funded?

Re: Accountability sinks

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I rather think accountability improved a lot. Esp. with the decline of buerocratic walls. Accountibility always was down. Back in aristocracy you were never allowed to ask for support. Only in modern civilisation this improved. Middle management, the clueless in the Gervais principle, need their walls. Don't be fooled by the decline of customer support in big orgs, like Google, Apple, or Amazon. They believe that sup…

> They believe that support cannot scale, or if it's really needed, it needs to be outsourced to India or East Asia.

I disagree. They believe that support shouldn't scale with the size of the business, and should provide economies.

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>The comparisons to AI are obvious, in as much as delegating decisions to an algorithm is a convenient way to construct a sink. There is a flag on my LinkedIn account that bars me from getting a "follow-me" link on my profile. No one of their support team knows why. No one knows since when. No one knows when it will change. We are already living in this world.

sounds like a bug

Re: Accountability sinks

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When I was a grad student in STS I was considering doing a project on how software can function as an "agency adjuster" where individuals come to bear the risks of something (generally an economic transaction) and the majority of the profits go to the owner of the software. In many ways Uber & related services are about allowing individuals to take on very low-probability high-acuity downside risk for a small fee.

Hmm, the analysis with respect to FOSS could also interesting. might make less sense to consider profit/compensation. Might be more useful to think of responsibility flows.. (or sources as well as sinks)

Yah - I think there's value there too. I am a huge fan of FOSS ofc - and also it's good to look at how FOSS allows companies to avoid hiring developers because they can use FOSS products. The first benefit I think of is trying to come up with FOSS approaches that would convince or coerce companies to contribute back to the projects they use at least a little.

Re: Accountability sinks

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>The chance are high that a random German speaks english so you’ll probably be good What does high mean in this context? I experienced what I would call the inverse Danish maneuver, the German obviously understand English because they often answered our English questions correctly - In German. In Denmark if a Dane understands what you said in Danish but you have a definite accent they will often answer your question…

This sounds like a language education issue. It's easier to understand a language than to express yourself in it, so possibly Germans on average have good enough knowledge of English to understand you but not enough to adequately reply in English. Conversely, Denmark has some of the highest English literacy in Europe.

I mean sure, that sounds plausible, until I point out in Germany that I don't speak German and they continue trying to explain to me in German the answer to my question.

If I'm talking to an Italian and trying to explain to them in English and they don't understand then I try with a combination of my broken Italian and hand signals, not obdurate sticking to English because that's being a jerk.

At the same time, yes Danes have a high English literacy, but switching to English when someone is talking to you in Danish is rude no matter how you slice it.

Re: Accountability sinks

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When I was a grad student in STS I was considering doing a project on how software can function as an "agency adjuster" where individuals come to bear the risks of something (generally an economic transaction) and the majority of the profits go to the owner of the software. In many ways Uber & related services are about allowing individuals to take on very low-probability high-acuity downside risk for a small fee.

I think this sort of analysis is valid and fruitful in a very general sense. Software as a recently adopted vehicle in a long tradition of liability displacement / diffusion of responsibility / agency modification

Yah - it lies outside of the narrowly technical (though technical systems come up a lot) and part of what I would talk about would have been: how much is this a trick and how much of this is real? Like, is software doing slight of hand and really Uber (or whoever) should be taxed on an externality / risk? Or does this electronic machine of software genuinely create a new arrangement of responsibility? My unhelpful understanding is "it depends" and even in the Uber case it's a bit mixed, though on balance I think Uber is more of a scam than a truly new thing (even though there's some new there).

Re: Accountability sinks

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post #73

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It’s a way to fully automate a Brazil scenario. [ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_(1985_film) ] Since at least in that scenario, there were humans in the Bureaucracy that could (but didn’t particularly) feel bad. In this scenario, no humans need to be directly involved, which allows the scope and scale to be even more Dystopian.

Of all the various useless laws that keep getting enacted, one that guarantees that every company needs to have a phone number, manned by actual human(s) with organic intelligence, advertised prominently on their products/advertisements, never gets passed.

Germany has this law for commercial websites. Mostly it makes people afraid to have websites.

Re: Accountability sinks

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I remember experiencing this in one of the German airports/airlines and having that exact thought. It was this fully automated airport, where the checkin is self serviced and you only interact with computers. Eventually, when I inserted my boarding pass I had a printed piece of paper back that said that they had to change my seat from aisle to midseat I then tried to find someone to talk to the entire way, but comput…

I can provide another POV to that story. We checked in as a family of four, and we're assigned seats in four different rows, with a two and a four year old. Only when entering the plane we had the possibility address this to a human and we were assigned new seats. So this might be the reason you had to change seats.

they claimed they had to change planes though i had selected that seat when booking the flight, and there were no humans available to address such issues
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