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Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by Terretta »

mft_ wrote: post #197
atestu wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that will fade. I don't know if you remember how mocked the airpods were when they first came out ("They look like q-tips"). All it'll take is a few celebrities spotted using one and they'll turn cool in no time.

You're not wrong, but I think there's at least a couple of orders of magnitude of awkwardness between the Airpods and the the Vision Pro that will have to be overcome, before the VP becomes mainstream.

Imagine the first person wearing bell bottom jeans. Some folks just DGAF, and next thing you know ...

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by cryptoz »

dfxm12 wrote: post #149
sylens wrote: post #27

Just reading this blog makes me feel like it is actually not a great device to travel with. For me, a good travel device is one that takes up minimal room when packing to the point where it becomes easy to forget I even have it in my bag. The Vision Pro typically requires its own dedicated spot on top of your carry on as you go through the airport - kind of the opposite. The author talks about just packing it with a…

A kindle/book/tablet seems superior in this regard. You get your entertainment for the plane and you don't have to worry about unpacking it on the plane, being precious with a very expensive piece of equipment and they are negligible in terms of lugging around/storing in your hotel. You can even reasonably use these if you have a little down time waiting in a line, during quick trips, will be without power for a whil…

The last time I remember flying with a tablet, it was so suspicious that airport security hauled me into a private room and interrogated me about it. They questioned why I didn't take it out of my bag for the scanner (since it was a 'laptop'). They asked what it was. They made me turn it on and use it. They were extremely rude and kept me holed up for a long time while investigating it.

So I don't fly with a tablet any more haha! Although, I get that time has passed and I would no longer be accosted so much, I assume. Must be pretty common now. My story takes place in ~2011 with the Motorola Xoom tablet. I guess they had never seen a tablet before.

I was also working hard on a plane one time, writing code to access barometer data on mobile devices to build a distributed weather sensor network that could be activated in software. The flight attendant came by and told me, "okay, time to put your toys away sweetie" referring to my tablet and phone. Oooooooooh my god.

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Post by ks2048 »

atestu wrote: post #53
DrillShopper wrote: post #19

I guess the flip side of this is that you look like a fucking dork.

I think that will fade. I don't know if you remember how mocked the airpods were when they first came out ("They look like q-tips"). All it'll take is a few celebrities spotted using one and they'll turn cool in no time.

I don't think it will pass, but I think subsequent versions will be slimmer and less mock-prone. In 10 years people will look back at the first version the way people look back at the first bulky cell phones.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by nine_k »

mft_ wrote: post #197
atestu wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that will fade. I don't know if you remember how mocked the airpods were when they first came out ("They look like q-tips"). All it'll take is a few celebrities spotted using one and they'll turn cool in no time.

You're not wrong, but I think there's at least a couple of orders of magnitude of awkwardness between the Airpods and the the Vision Pro that will have to be overcome, before the VP becomes mainstream.

There were times when going to an office wearing a T-shirt felt crazy, like going to an office while wearing a bikini, or wearing a clown attire, would be now. It changed maybe in late 1990s.

Things like these change very slowly, then suddenly, once the views of the perceived majority around most people change enough that the people start to see the new state as proper and confirmant, a new norm.

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Post by dagmx »

prmoustache wrote: post #215
dagmx wrote: post #194

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You assume that most train rides offer a good view, and a view that the commuter would find novel. If I’m taking a commuter train every day , my view is not something great. Most of the time it’s rundown houses, tunnels or fences. This has been my experience in the UK, US and Canada. If I’m taking a more long distance train, you assume I’m sat on the side with a view. Ever taken a mountain train? One side just gets r…

I guess that is based on experience as I have commuted in the swiss alps for years by train. There is even a tunnel when you are comming from Freiburg in direction of Lausanne/Geneva where you can count down the exact moment the tourists will let escape a collective woooaaaaah once the train exit the tunnel to a majestic view of Lake of Geneva with the alps and the Mont Blanc in the background. There are some views y…

This feels like you’re judging others for not being fortunate enough to live in the same place you do. It’s a bit narcissistic of a viewpoint imho.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

luismedel wrote: post #50
39896880 wrote: post #15

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>The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out of our environment less. Depends on what environment that is. I mean, is there some value in hearing an ambulance siren at full volume while I'm walking down the street? Or the sound of people trying to get my attention to hand me some flyer? Or the sound of the BART?

I like to be able to ear any siren around me, to be honest. They're the way they are for a reason.

"at full volume"

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by asdff »

RandomThoughts3 wrote: post #212
asdff wrote: post #207

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Why can't you avoid it now? Just open zoom. No need for gen 5 avp.

And yet everyone who has ever worked with an offshore team knows that nothing beats time spent in the same room. I don’t expect VR to change that.

Well when you account for the time spent travelling, the time spent socializing and shmoozing, the boxed lunch hour, etc, that adds up to a whole lot of wasted time on top of what could have easily been a 45 min zoom meeting, or an email. Its fun I guess if you get all your social outlet from your coworkers, but if you get it from anywhere else it probably feels like you just got drafted when you get sent to meet the distributed team in person.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by sbrother »

klabb3 wrote: post #103
jonpurdy wrote: post #8

For those who wear N95s on planes, I can confirm that 3M Aura 9205+ works great with Vision Pro※ and doesn't hinder using it at all, nor reduce comfort, at least for my head and face shape. ※ - Tested during my 30 min demo (more like 45 mins) at the Apple Store.

Not criticism, genuinely curious: why? I thought cabin air was exceptionally well cycled and filtered, much more so than other indoor spaces.

I don't know, but I always tended to get sick after flying. I started wearing a mask while flying during COVID and it's the one place I still do it. Not scientific but I feel like I have gotten sick after flying less frequently since then. It could even just be the effect of making myself breathe humid air in what's normally an extremely dry environment.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by Terretta »

Takennickname wrote: post #83

I burst out laughing when I saw the size of VR screen is the same size as the screen on the chair in front of him.

I used to wonder how people watch movies on their iPhone then realized many people sit so far from their living room TV screen that if they held up their iPhone it would be the same apparent size.

By contrast, you can readily set the apparent screen size in the AVP to 40+ degree angle:

× 1.2 (corresponding to 40-degree viewing angle)

THX recommends that the "best seat-to-screen distance" is one where the view angle approximates 40 degrees,[26] (the actual angle is 40.04 degrees). Their recommendation was originally presented at the 2006 CES show, and was stated as being the theoretical maximum horizontal view angle, based on average human vision. In the opinion of THX, the location where the display is viewed at a 40-degree view angle provides the most "immersive cinematic experience", all else being equal. For consumer application of their recommendations, THX recommends ... multiplying the diagonal measurement by about 1.2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimum_HDTV_viewing_distance

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by dagmx »

latexr wrote: post #211
dagmx wrote: post #174

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That would require a serendipitous level of - sitting next to someone who you get along with and don’t run out of things to talk about for the entire duration of the flight - neither one of you wanting to sleep or do anything else for the duration of the flight either - not caring about the other passengers around you who might also want to sleep

I was on a flight not too long ago where the two people sitting next to me had apparently just met. They were from different countries travelling for different reasons. They had a friendly chat for a while about where they were from, why they were on that plane, and some things they enjoyed to do. The whole interaction lasted maybe twenty minutes, from sitting to take off. Then they said “cheers”, one of them went to…

Your story just says what my comment does though. They ignored each other the rest of the time.

Nobody is saying you tune out the entirety of the world the second you sit down. But there is an awful amount of people acting like the environment around you on a plane is worth paying attention to the entire time

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