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Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by dudeanon842 »

warfangle wrote: post #127
jamesaguilar wrote: post #35

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I love that people accuse Apple of planned obsolescence in the phone market when Google releases operating systems that don't even work on devices that came out in the current year.

"don't even work on other companies devices that they have no control over " Fixed that for you. The Nexus (minus the G1) line of phones gets regular updates - my old Nexus One was always updated within a few weeks of a new version of android coming out. If you want updated OS software on your phone, be smart about which droid phone you get. Ain't goog's fault Samsung won't allow updates to Phone #4123.

My nexus one is still my primary phone, and it has yet to be upgraded to ice cream sandwich, and is never slated to.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by jsz0 »

whiskers wrote: post #82
dagw wrote: post #69

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It's half the price, but also smaller and lower specced. So it's not going after the iPad head to head.

I actually think they are putting this up head to head by making people ask the question about whether they should bother spending the extra £200 on an iPad. Tablets are very much a luxury item, no one really needs two of them. Essentially they're after people who are on the fence by making it too attractive price-wise to pass up on.

I think you're right that tablets are a luxury item but that might also be part of the iPad's success too. People aren't really looking for the cheapest option it seems. I remember reading somewhere that the average iPad sale price ends up being above $650 since a good number of people opt for the larger capacity or cellular models.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by jsz0 »

pook1e wrote: post #110
kylec wrote: post #86

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The Nexus One has only been out for 2.5 years (since Jan 2010) and it was announced back in October that it wouldn't be getting ICS because it was "too old", which at that time was still less than 2 years since its launch. http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/26/the-nexus-one-isnt-invited-...

I fail to see your argument. The original iPad launched two years ago, and will not be getting iOS 6 because it is "too old".

Personally I don't give Apple a free pass for not being able to update the original iPad to iOS6. They low-balled the RAM presumably to keep costs under control and now users are going to suffer for it. Delivering one major OS update is better than most of their competition but still not good enough.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by jmcqk6 »

btipling wrote: post #5

It ships with Jellybean... I've been waiting for the Samsung 10 inch tablet with the stylus, but it's already out of date and hasn't even shipped yet. I don't want a 7inch tablet and it is going to be years by the time a Jelly Bean 10 inch tablet comes out and by that time there will already be a new version of the OS! I already have a Fire and I can't read magazines on it, it's too small. I'm just going to give up a…

Perhaps I'm missing something, but I thought that the Xoom was included in the updated devices list that will be pushed OTA in july. The xoom is a ten incher, right?

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by taligent »

commandar wrote: post #109
whiskers wrote: post #70

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It's also 3" smaller, shorter battery life, much lower resolution, and maxes out at 16GB of storage. I suspect Google has priced this very competitively (low margins) specifically to compete with iPad by offering something half the price. If they'd put out a device with comparable features in screen, battery, and storage it would have had to be priced so close to the iPad that the question "why not just have an iPad?…

>and maxes out at 16GB of storage. I think the key thing here is the "built for Play" moniker. It's also an extension of just how deeply integrated Android has always been with the cloud. I've been using Android since the G1 first came out. My devices are a portal to my stuff rather than a container, and I don't overly care about storage space as a result. My music streams from Play to my phone in the car. I stream N…

iOS can do all of what you listed.

And it still has decent storage options for media/books/etc that you want to use whilst offline.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by Synaesthesia »

warfangle wrote: post #127
jamesaguilar wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love that people accuse Apple of planned obsolescence in the phone market when Google releases operating systems that don't even work on devices that came out in the current year.

"don't even work on other companies devices that they have no control over " Fixed that for you. The Nexus (minus the G1) line of phones gets regular updates - my old Nexus One was always updated within a few weeks of a new version of android coming out. If you want updated OS software on your phone, be smart about which droid phone you get. Ain't goog's fault Samsung won't allow updates to Phone #4123.

The Nexus One doesn't even have ICS yet

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by Synaesthesia »

bratsche wrote: post #179
warfangle wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"don't even work on other companies devices that they have no control over " Fixed that for you. The Nexus (minus the G1) line of phones gets regular updates - my old Nexus One was always updated within a few weeks of a new version of android coming out. If you want updated OS software on your phone, be smart about which droid phone you get. Ain't goog's fault Samsung won't allow updates to Phone #4123.

Uhh.. I have a Nexus One, and that was not my experience at all. It took a fucking long time to get updates. But maybe that's because I had one of the later models of Nexus One, which supported AT&T 3G, and all the updates only went out on time to the people who had the original model.

Doesn't even have ICS yet

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by zmmmmm »

btipling wrote: post #25
UnFleshedOne wrote: post #16

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You mean they should stop working on the OS to save you some "not the latest" anxiety?

Tablets are expensive. I cannot afford to buy a tablet every year. So I want a tablet that is future proof. The 10 inch tablets that others will release this year will have an outdated operating system on them and will still cost many hundreds of dollars. I do not want to spend hundreds of dollars on an outdated operating system. I love Android, but this terrible to the extreme.

> So I want a tablet that is future proof.

There's no such thing, the iPad won't save you. Apple just deprecated the iPad1 at just over 2 years of lifespan. Even if they didn't the battery would die. We're in a 'disposable device' era now.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by Bjartr »

jamesaguilar wrote: post #221
wvenable wrote: post #217

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> The "obligation" I am speaking of is an expectation... Obligation is a legal or moral term -- you can't use that term otherwise. An expectation is not an obligation. If you expect free cookies from me because I've been giving you free cookies every day for the past week, that's fine. But I'm not obligated to give you free cookies today. If Bob gives you free cookies and I'm now sitting in Bob's desk, you might expe…

I guess we have reached an impasse. We'll see how well this approach works out for Google in the long run. I'm inclined to suspect it is hurting them as it would probably hurt Microsoft if they started breaking backwards compatibility with every OS release. But reality will have to be the arbiter of whether this theory is correct. Also, IMO, the term social obligation is pretty well understood. It's an expectation of…

Do you believe that Google doesn't want all Android users to have the latest and greatest? The more people happy with Android, the more people using Android, the more people seeing Google provided ads, which was the whole point of starting Android in the first place.
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