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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by najork »

swyx wrote: post #189
panarky wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Insanely good ideas"? With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. Even in the idealized world of demoware there's no killer feature, not to mention that none of it is even available to real customers yet. I was expecting something only Apple could do with their vast ecosystem of IP and partnerships, the must-have cool new thing that would stimulate a leap in…

1) i am as ready to shit on apple and siri as the next guy, but imo the HN cynicism is overbearing here. apple isnt building to impress internet neckbeards like us. they are building for the normies. features they understand intuitively and cannot fuck up. maybe wait til it gets in the normies hands to judge. ~none of us here know what its like to work on a hardware/software platform for >1 billion? people. 2) i actu…

Agreed, and Apple's differentiator has always been seamless integration. With the iPhone, they own the boundary layer between the physical and digital worlds. It's an obvious place to introduce AI for daily tasks without requiring any behavioral changes from the users.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by swyx »

llm_nerd wrote: post #216
swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

"- camera adds events to calendar!" I'm on iOS 18.0 on my iPhone 15 Pro, rather that the 18.1 with the "AI". Recently had an eye doctor appt for one of my children and they scheduled a follow-up, giving me a little card with the details. I was in a hurry so took a picture of it intending to enter the calendar event later, and it immediately pulled up a fully-filled in, completely accurate new calendar event. Little a…

oh so you're saying this is not an Apple Intelligence feature? its a little hard to tell

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by aucisson_masque »

veber-alex wrote: post #69

I am disappointed. The 16 Pro is larger and heavier than the 15 pro which is already heavy. I have small hands, I want a smaller and lighter phone. Not going to buy the 16 because of lack of ProMotion.

i bought my grandma an iphone 6, damn these thing were perfect size and the force haptic was awesome. Iphone are becoming more and more like android, in size, in complexity and jankyness.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by DidYaWipe »

afavour wrote: post #202
panarky wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Insanely good ideas"? With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. Even in the idealized world of demoware there's no killer feature, not to mention that none of it is even available to real customers yet. I was expecting something only Apple could do with their vast ecosystem of IP and partnerships, the must-have cool new thing that would stimulate a leap in…

> With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. None of that was coming from Apple, though. I don't think they can be held responsible for hype that gets put on them. IMO these are all solid moves into AI integration without getting carried away by hype and doing things that will have very middling results.

True. All the whining was coming from lazy "industry observers" who never mustered up an example of what, exactly, they expected Apple to be doing with "AI."

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by wwweston »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #187
panarky wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Insanely good ideas"? With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. Even in the idealized world of demoware there's no killer feature, not to mention that none of it is even available to real customers yet. I was expecting something only Apple could do with their vast ecosystem of IP and partnerships, the must-have cool new thing that would stimulate a leap in…

Semantic search was always going to be the killer feature of this AI boom. But it’s just a cherry on top of existing software and requires training users to expand what they think is possible.

As far as I can tell, AI is one of several features that have actively made search worse. There are a handful of novel things it does well enough, but I'd rather engage those in their own LLM sandbox than have the facilities formerly available in a searchbox replaced with a guessbox.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by rurp »

thiht wrote: post #94
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

> Better battery life That’s the only thing from your list that people actually care about and they did improve battery life, there was a whole segment about it. The rest? No one cares. Do you even use an iPhone? You sound like me before I got an iPhone: - I thought the notch would be annoying, I don’t even notice it anymore, it’s never been an issue in actual use - I was convinced TouchID was better than FaceID but…

Not everyone has the same set of use cases that you do. Device storage for example is a big deal for anyone who spends significant time outside of wifi. Buying more cloud storage doesn't help someone without an internet connection. Many people prefer TouchID for various reasons and I'm not sure why we wouldn't believe them just because you happen to like FaceID.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by manquer »

ricardobeat wrote: post #211
panarky wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Insanely good ideas"? With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. Even in the idealized world of demoware there's no killer feature, not to mention that none of it is even available to real customers yet. I was expecting something only Apple could do with their vast ecosystem of IP and partnerships, the must-have cool new thing that would stimulate a leap in…

I think you're seriously underestimating the impact of actually-useful and reliable AI features at your fingertips. This is what everyone imagined computers would be, since I don't know... the 80s?

Nice to have sure, enough to consider spending upwards of $1000 on upgrade? don’t think so.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by DidYaWipe »

ricardobeat wrote: post #211
panarky wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Insanely good ideas"? With the months of nonstop and over-the-top hype of "Apple Intelligence" these all seem underwhelming. Even in the idealized world of demoware there's no killer feature, not to mention that none of it is even available to real customers yet. I was expecting something only Apple could do with their vast ecosystem of IP and partnerships, the must-have cool new thing that would stimulate a leap in…

I think you're seriously underestimating the impact of actually-useful and reliable AI features at your fingertips. This is what everyone imagined computers would be, since I don't know... the 80s?

Siri (for all the absurd whining about it) met those expectations 10 years ago.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by mohaine »

jessriedel wrote: post #230
paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

I'm excited that the cost of iPhone 15's will continue to fall so I can soon eliminate lightning cables from my life. Please everyone, go out and upgrade from 15 to 16! :)

A set of these, while still not ideal, make the transition much easier.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6PDGLWZ

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