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Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by markus_zhang »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #201
markus_zhang wrote: post #45

On a side note, I have been reflecting on the impact of modern Internet contents on me for the last 12 years or so. The conclusion is, for whatever the reason, the impact is mostly negative. It would do me a great favor to simply remove Youtube, social media sites and anything similar from my life. I probably have ADHD. I rarely completed any side projects. I'm anxious most if the time, biting my fingers all the time…

I'd advise people not to self-diagnose with mental diseases, go to a doctor and get checked. Being neurodivergent became fashionable, but there's natural neural diversity among humans. Most people are easily distracted, have difficulty focusing, are unusually sad/tired or happy/energetic according to the whims of life, etc. Most people need to overcome this so they make an effort to put aside distractions, concentrat…

Yeah I totally agree. I'm going to get it checked out. I just think that without any external help, it is hopeless for me to push away distractions for a reasonably long time. So either I find a way to increase my will power, or find a way to numb my sensitivity to the distractions.

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by dakial1 »

inhumantsar wrote: post #157
mrandish wrote: post #123

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I just checked and YT is normal for me in FF 129.0.2 (64-bit). YT specific add-ons: uBlock Origin, Nova YouTube (userscript with dozens of modules to fix various YT behaviors and UI annoyances), and Enhancer for YouTube (adds more playback speeds, fixes default player size & volume levels). Since YT in my FF is heavily modified to be not awful, maybe the regression is in something my add-on stack is blocking.

> Nova YouTube looked this up out of curiosity. the only thing resembling a description is "Combine small plugins, expanding the possibilities of YouTube." which is pretty useless. what all does this do?

This Nova YT addon is outside Firefox Addons page for some a specific reason? Seems a little cumbersome to install

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by whamlastxmas »

markus_zhang wrote: post #230
whamlastxmas wrote: post #192

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My adhd was helped a lot by: Reading about adhd to understand how it impacts your brain and life Reading about coping mechanisms and actually doing them Things everyone hears and never does but it absolutely helps: good diet, exercise, meditation Work on any other mental health issues you have Therapy Lots of trial and error of management methods to see what works Learning to be kind to myself Stopping “I should” sta…

Thanks. I guess eventually I need to be at peace with myself, which I cannot do that. TBH I loathe myself. I can lie to others but I cannot lie to myself. I guess therapy is probably my best resort.

I really disliked myself for most of my life and even now struggle with it. The thing that helped me a lot was learning to be unconditionally kind to others both in my thoughts and actions. Once that was normalized it was easy to apply the same thought process to myself.

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Post by whamlastxmas »

mozempthrowaway wrote: post #204
whamlastxmas wrote: post #191

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Can you elaborate on specifics of corruption?

Basically, follow the money. To keep nonprofit/tax benefits, the work has to be done for some sort of public benefit. That work never gets done, instead it’s constant reorganizations, hiring/firing, and shuffling money around. We’re always profitable, and every few years there seems to be decent to huge layoffs even though we’re beating revenue estimates and behind on our hiring goals. Money keeps going up from Googl…

Most of this sounds like poor management and not corruption. But perhaps the corruption is intentional mismanagement to keep it uncompetitive

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by yencabulator »

PaulHoule wrote: post #113
neilv wrote: post #103

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Since YouTube has massive resources and famed tooling&processes, presumably either they knew about the Firefox problems before deploying, or (if there was a genuine QA mistake) they'd know about it very soon after deploy, when they'd be able to rollback if they wanted to. (Obviously, they know about Firefox, they've developed for it since it was available, and they've even been funding it.)

Google funding Firefox is part of the problem. It contributes to the perception of corruption around the Mozilla organization, just as it does when the bus has a supergraphic ad for a car dealership on it. If the EU was serious about privacy they'd fully fund Firefox.

EU has funded Servo, which is a lot better than giving money to already-rich Mozilla CxOs: https://nlnet.nl/project/Verso/

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by rasz »

jeroenhd wrote: post #83

Took a performance benchmark in both Firefox and Brave. Both of them are unusually slow (addons/extensions disabled, fresh profile), but Firefox especially so. Source for the huge render times seems to be desktop_polymer.js, specifically the part that's registering and setting up custom web components. Once the website loads, performance becomes a lot better. My guess is that a Polymer update made Youtube slower for…

>desktop_polymer.js

its doing such fun things as patching tons of standard js methods (.append() .appendChild() etc) for no reason other than maybe fighting adblockers?

When debugging own scripts/extensions running on YT every other call to standard function ends up calling some proxy in desktop_polymer.js

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by markus_zhang »

perihelion_zero wrote: post #183
markus_zhang wrote: post #45

On a side note, I have been reflecting on the impact of modern Internet contents on me for the last 12 years or so. The conclusion is, for whatever the reason, the impact is mostly negative. It would do me a great favor to simply remove Youtube, social media sites and anything similar from my life. I probably have ADHD. I rarely completed any side projects. I'm anxious most if the time, biting my fingers all the time…

I feel like I'm in a similar boat. Like 6 different mental disorders including constantly pulling my hair out. I've contemplating sales calls. You can theoretically make like on the order of over $1000/hour while sitting on a bench or walking on a trail. It can be done in short bursts once you get the hang of it. Then once you have some financial freedom in a few hours of successful work (not the first few hours), yo…

I actually pushed myself into a Sales position 10 years ago. I worked as a stock broker for a few years, just for the challenge. Eventually I realized that I really hated this kind of job, so I quit the job without earning anything substantial.

I wish you good luck!

Re: Starting today, YouTube is almost unusable on Firefox

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Post by markus_zhang »

whamlastxmas wrote: post #243
markus_zhang wrote: post #230

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Thanks. I guess eventually I need to be at peace with myself, which I cannot do that. TBH I loathe myself. I can lie to others but I cannot lie to myself. I guess therapy is probably my best resort.

I really disliked myself for most of my life and even now struggle with it. The thing that helped me a lot was learning to be unconditionally kind to others both in my thoughts and actions. Once that was normalized it was easy to apply the same thought process to myself.

Thanks. I'm fine with other people. I know most people are simply controlled by fate and randomness so it's pointless to blame anyone for anything. I don't know how to make peace with myself though even though I agree it's the same story for myself.
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