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Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Post by saghm »

not_wyoming wrote: post #232
zooq_ai wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing preventing search companies paying the same $60 Million to license content. If reddit had exclusive agreement, it would be anti-competive. This is classic HN anti-Google tirade (and downvoting facts, logic and concepts of free market)

> There is nothing preventing search companies paying the same $60 Million to license content. Yes, actually, there is - having $60m to throw around. "Barriers to entry often cause or aid the existence of monopolies and oligopolies" [0]. Monopolies and oligopolies are definitionally the opposite of free market forces. This is quite literally Econ 101. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barriers_to_entry

Not to mention the fact that if this became commonplace, other websites might start charging as well

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Post by Suppafly »

zamadatix wrote: post #154
Suppafly wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

weird, I've never heard of mojeek before and this is the 2nd comment in this thread I've seen mentioning it.

As of the time of writing there are 8 search matches in this thread: 1 from you, the rest from Colin (CEO of said company).

> the rest from Colin (CEO of said company)

I assumed he had financial connection to them, but didn't want to take the time to research it. Mojeek is the new fetch.

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Post by rozab »

zamadatix wrote: post #154
Suppafly wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

weird, I've never heard of mojeek before and this is the 2nd comment in this thread I've seen mentioning it.

As of the time of writing there are 8 search matches in this thread: 1 from you, the rest from Colin (CEO of said company).

Spam is fine by me if it's from the CEOs personal account, lol. Clearly I wasn't familiar with the product so it's a helpful comment for me

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Post by card_zero »

lifestyleguru wrote: post #10

I deeply regret every minute spent on and kilobyte of text contributed to reddit.

I mostly contributed to r/nonsense and I'm pleased by the thought of that sub's content being used to train future AI, with information about the architectural uses of super-tall chef's hats, the prehistoric invasion of Europe by Beak People, and so forth.

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Post by JohnFen »

immibis wrote: post #78
popcalc wrote: post #5

# Welcome to Reddit's robots.txt # Reddit believes in an open internet, but not the misuse of public content. # See https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/26410290525844-Public-Content-Policy Reddit's Public Content Policy for access and use restrictions to Reddit content. # See https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit4researchers/ for details on how Reddit continues to support research and non-commercial use. # pol…

Nobody who wants to be successful obeys robots.txt. And I do mean nobody.

Sadly true. That's why I gave up on robots.txt years ago and started blocking crawlers outright in .htaccess

Of course, that became unsustainable so now I have everything behind a login wall.

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Post by Slyfox33 »

warkdarrior wrote: post #75
nope1000 wrote: post #55

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There is Lemmy for example, very similar to old Reddit. The big problem is the missing content outside of mainstream communities.

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Why would anyone want to purposely read AI bot content?

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Post by Suppafly »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #134
Suppafly wrote: post #124

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>The companies that buy these service games and run them effectively just buy completed money printers and keep them operating. I hadn't really thought about that topic in that way before. Really explains why some of those older MMOs have no desire to really make any improvements, the owners are happy to just keep them powered up and collect a check but have no incentive to invest in making them better.

I think the notion that sometimes things are just "done" is incredibly undervalued in our industry. Frankly I wish a ton of games I play would STOP updating.

>I think the notion that sometimes things are just "done" is incredibly undervalued in our industry.

I agree, but also the flip side is that things rapidly switch from 'done and working' to 'dead' pretty quickly if no one is willing to do minor maintenance.

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Post by zooq_ai »

not_wyoming wrote: post #232
zooq_ai wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing preventing search companies paying the same $60 Million to license content. If reddit had exclusive agreement, it would be anti-competive. This is classic HN anti-Google tirade (and downvoting facts, logic and concepts of free market)

> There is nothing preventing search companies paying the same $60 Million to license content. Yes, actually, there is - having $60m to throw around. "Barriers to entry often cause or aid the existence of monopolies and oligopolies" [0]. Monopolies and oligopolies are definitionally the opposite of free market forces. This is quite literally Econ 101. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barriers_to_entry

Having a Monopoly != Anti-Competitive.

Having Barriers to Entry != Anti-competitive

Yes, large players have advantages of Economies of Scale.

Just because you can't run an Airline because you don't have money to buy an Airplane isn't anti-competitive.

Today Microsoft, Apple, OpenAI, Google, Amazon all can afford those piddly $60m to license from reddit.

Not Anti-competitive at all.

But saddened by how much corporate-hate by HNers destroys their credibility in debating these thing.

Go ahead downvote

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Post by [deleted] »

CSMastermind wrote: post #180
crazygringo wrote: post #21

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The network effects are too strong. Remember, the only reason Reddit "won" was because Digg destroyed itself with a radical upgrade that everyone hated. Reddit would have to do something similarly self-inflicted, and I can't even guess where people would go. Reddit was already an alternative to Digg -- what's the alternative to Reddit? I mean, it's certainly not Quora.

I don't think this is true. The main thing I see Reddit being useful for are discussions about entertainment. There's probably a subreddit for your favorite sports team, twitch steamer, TV show, book series video game, politics (which is entertainment for some people). Reddit has seriously degraded the experience of a lot of these communities with things like restricting custom CSS. It seems to me that the way you'd…

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Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Post by try_the_bass »

not_wyoming wrote: post #232
zooq_ai wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing preventing search companies paying the same $60 Million to license content. If reddit had exclusive agreement, it would be anti-competive. This is classic HN anti-Google tirade (and downvoting facts, logic and concepts of free market)

> There is nothing preventing search companies paying the same $60 Million to license content. Yes, actually, there is - having $60m to throw around. "Barriers to entry often cause or aid the existence of monopolies and oligopolies" [0]. Monopolies and oligopolies are definitionally the opposite of free market forces. This is quite literally Econ 101. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barriers_to_entry

And yet "free market forces" are often the reason why monopolies and oligopolies arise...?

Monopolies are entirely consistent with free market economics. After all, if there's clearly a "best product" for a particular niche, it's entirely rational (free market actor) behavior for everyone to use the same product, leading to its monopoly in that market segment.

I don't understand why people think this isn't/won't be/shouldn't be a common result of "free market forces".

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