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Copying is the way design works (2020)

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Re: Copying is the way design works (2020)

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xinayder wrote: post #147
m12k wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, one of the most important UX principles is for things to work the way the user expects. And unless you are the market leader, those expectations are mostly built based on all the other designs that your users interact with, rather than yours. So to the extent that originality means diverging from those expectations that are built elsewhere, it is actively doing your users a disservice, by not letting them lever…

While it makes sense, it really isn't the case if the market leaders have shitty design principles. Apple stopped bundling an iPhone charger on recent models. Samsung did the same, but realized the backlash was enormous, and offered the charger for free (instead of being an additional purchase) if you bought a recent model. Same with headphone jack, although it was received much more negatively and I'm pretty sure Sa…

> The average user is no longer a tech illiterate person.

On the contrary, I think the average user is nowadays a much more tech illiterate person than they used to be.

Re: Copying is the way design works (2020)

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robinsonb5 wrote: post #172
krisoft wrote: post #161

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I don't think you are quite talking about the same kind of design here. You are talking about very high level choices. (Do we bundle a charger with every new phone? does the phone have a jack?) Those are not really good examples where familiarity is important. The argument about the importance of familiarity is in the UX paradigm of the phone. Think about the task of pairing a phone with a wifi network. You usually d…

Another example of this: when I bought my current phone it took me well over a week to figure out how to put it on silent, because the option to do it is no longer on the control panel you sweep down from the top of the screen. No, now I have to actually adjust the volume to make the volume indicator / slider pop up, and then the mute button is visible. If the volume slider was accesible through the regular on-screen…

Aha, you too have a OnePlus? :-)

AFAICR, it took me much longer than a week.

Re: Copying is the way design works (2020)

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guappa wrote: post #138
karaterobot wrote: post #18

> As a designer, I feel the need to be original. If you’re a designer, or even if you’re just interested in design, you probably feel the need to be original, too. I've been a professional designer since 2006, and I got over that thinking pretty quickly. A designer trying to be strikingly original is rarely acting in service of the design. If you want to be strikingly original, you probably want to be an artist inste…

There's a full time design team where I work. The menu items got decided before they all got hired. What they do is to move them around every few months, change the colours, design our application with a mobile layout, despite 99% of our users being on desktop computers…

> What [the full time design team] do is to move [the menu items] around every few months

Poor fuckers probably don't even know that there is a standard -- CUA -- for what order those are supposed to be in: File, Edit, View ... Tools, Window(s), Help.

Re: Copying is the way design works (2020)

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smrq wrote: post #229
guappa wrote: post #138

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There's a full time design team where I work. The menu items got decided before they all got hired. What they do is to move them around every few months, change the colours, design our application with a mobile layout, despite 99% of our users being on desktop computers…

>design our application with a mobile layout, despite 99% of our users being on desktop computers And without a mobile layout before, I wonder why? It's bonkers that not everyone is on board with responsive design being table stakes in 2024.

I am so sorry I saw this comment too late to downvote it.
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