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10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

Republicans are strongly anti-illegal immigration, and that appears anti-immigration to some.

Trump supported a plan to reduce legal immigration by half:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/us/politics/trump-immigra...

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

Shutting off US immigration is national suicide. Immigration is our superpower. It’s like a company deciding they don’t want any more customers. Utterly beyond idiotic.

As birth rates drop globally the countries that are magnets for the highest quality immigrants will explode and basically rule the world.

The kind of immigrants we get are the envy of the world too. I am a little more sympathetic to European concerns because the immigrants they are getting are coming for different reasons. Many of them are refugees not people coming because they genuinely want to be there, and that is a different deal entirely.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

correction: anti-illegal immigrant platform. the 3rd worlder influx of criminals is negative for the country not positive.

Trump supported a plan to reduce legal immigration by half:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/us/politics/trump-immigra...

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

> the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. Explain how unskilled illegal immigrants contribute to our success. I'm open minded but I've yet to hear anything convincing. No one is opposed to the legal immigration of skilled workers.

> No one is opposed to the legal immigration of skilled workers.

Is this why I keep reading "THEY TUKK ER JERBS!!!!!!" as a knock-down argument against H1-B and other legal visas here on HN?

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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> the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. Explain how unskilled illegal immigrants contribute to our success. I'm open minded but I've yet to hear anything convincing. No one is opposed to the legal immigration of skilled workers.

Why would we be opposed to unskilled immigrants? The majority of the people who came here from Europe in the 1700s and 1800s were laborers, factory workers, farmers, and other simple occupations. Why are we pulling up the ladder behind them? Did you want to freeze the US as it was circa 1950? Things change man. The US isn't forever, anymore than Rome was. You gotta stop trying to fight the current and pretending that…

That was when those countries were going through their industrial revolution. Those same countries are now desindustrialising.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

> I'm not concerned about the crime You may not be concerned about the crime, but many voters are. The author of the article you linked to also exhorts the Somali immigrant community to not engage in crime. > because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency until the 2nd and 3rd generation is able to make it into established society. History and data from various European nations suggest that some immigrant groups…

"The mythical tie between immigration and crime"[1]

1. https://siepr.stanford.edu/news/mythical-tie-between-immigra...

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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I wonder what a sensible way forward for Cubans is, and their government. What would it take for the US to lift sanctions (I assume a radical shift within Cuba's government), and for Cuba itself (as a whole) to restructure their government in a way that would benefit them and everyone. Cuba would be a great travel destination. Their cigars aren't as on par anymore as far as I know, but there's potential there, Nicara…

Why does the US still have sanctions on them anyway? The missile crisis was 50 years ago. It's time to forgive.

Why did the US drop 2 nuclear bombs on Japan? Why the US is keeping Israel as their toy? Why the US entered the Vietnam war (hint: no, not to avoid the spread of communism). US is the bad boy of this planet, just because they can.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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> Nobody is sending missiles to Cuba anymore. Or are they? https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/12/americas/russian-navy-cuba-in...

Still no. Just a visit, doesn't look like Cuba has any wish to become Russia's military fortress. From Russia side all decisions are made by a single person who is not thinking big. Cuba would be quite expensive. Ukraine is more then enough for Putin, unlikely he wants a new 'adventure'.

> Ukraine is more then enough for Putin

What about propaganda where he will capture the whole EU after Ukraine?

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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post #242

I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

Shutting off US immigration is national suicide. Immigration is our superpower. It’s like a company deciding they don’t want any more customers. Utterly beyond idiotic. As birth rates drop globally the countries that are magnets for the highest quality immigrants will explode and basically rule the world. The kind of immigrants we get are the envy of the world too. I am a little more sympathetic to European concerns…

The number of actual refugees in Europe is tiny (ukrainians excluded). What is large is the number of people who pretend to be refugees, like it is at the southern border of the US.

And even actual refugees are really economic migrants after they crossed half a dozen countries where they wouldn't be in danger.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may not in the short or medium term cause regime change, but sufficiently large sanctions on a country do stop it from growing in influence, wealth and power. Eventually, after some number of generations, Cuba could be so poor in comparison to the rising tide of the rest of the world, that it's not even able to defend itself or maintain government control. At some point, the disparity in power becomes overwhelming…

Can that really happen? Won’t one of the visiting tourists bring news of the wheel or what have you eventually? Seems more likely sanctions would cause a steady state where the sanctioned country is some n months/years behind where it would otherwise be, speaking as a complete geopolitical layman anyway.

Not OP but the problem is not awareness of modern solutions that prevents sanctioned societies from modernizing, the isolation from trade prevents local industry from growing which keeps society living at subsistence levels and when everyone is poor you don’t have a class of people with spare time or the resources necessary to build up local industry that brings about capital that brings about infrastructure modernization etc.
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