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Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Crime should not be tolerated, criminals thrive on society’s indulgence in being ‘understanding’.

Man, it sounds to me like a few users in this thread wouldn’t mind some good ole Sharia Law. Can’t steal if you don’t have a hand!

Why is the comfort of the aggressor more important than the comfort of the innocent victim?

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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That is a huge inventory. How do stolen tools get fenced? Sent abroad? Craigslist and FB marketplace? I've bought some used tools from online classifieds, but it always seems to be a homeowner or business owner selling one or two things.

> That is a huge inventory. How do stolen tools get fenced? Sold in bulk to someone overseas is my theory, way too much effort and risk selling this stuff piecemeal online or locally. You can see something similar happening with stolen cars in the US. [1] [1] https://abc7ny.com/stolen-cars-tri-state-port-of-newark-west...

There's no risk in selling stolen goods online.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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> Selling overseas would require hardware changes with the plugs Canada, Mexico, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Colombia, Venezuela, and a few other Central/South American countries can plug these tools right into the wall.

None of those countries are overseas from the US. Maybe there's a case to be made for Venuzeuela and Colombia because of the Darien Gap, but that's pushing it.

You seem to be ignoring concavity.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Are we still talking about the police in the OP? Who needed someone to give them GPS coordinates to find the stolen goods after at least 14,999 previous tool thefts went unsolved? Not exactly batman level detective work here, this case was cracked because it was handed to them on a silver platter.

I guess you haven't dealt much with the police before...

Oh I have which I why I'm surprised that everyone is reading this as the police doing a good job. This is a story of the police failing to do their job 14,999 times and only getting it right on try 15,000 because one of the victims solved the case for them.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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How would you handle it? Give them a stern talking-to?

The comment you replied to provides an alternative.

So they steal from you, and then you get the privilege of your tax dollars paying for their room and board. I dunno, I can see why some people might not be chuffed to bits by that solution.

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I'm sure your anecdotal experience is true for you, but funding is not linked to clearance rates. Counter to copaganda, police are worse at solving cases compared to 30 years ago, even as crime rates have fallen dramatically and funding has increased. If you think preventing and solving crimes, then American police are objectively bad at their jobs. If you think of police as revenue generators, then they're good at i…

Are you saying that police should arrest people when it’s not necessary? How do you figure that?

It's the cops who said that. I assume that's why the phrase is in quotes. Apparently they themselves believed they performed some arrests that weren't "absolutely necessary". They said this as a threat to influence negotiations. You should take this question up with them.

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I'll offer a counterpoint - I live in a nice building in a bit of a rougher part of a major city. I've learned that the police do show up thankfully, but it takes a very long time unless there's literally a life on the line. (Which, I know, is better than some other major cities.) The couple of times I've interacted with them, it's been painfully obvious to me that they feel like they need to put on a performance for…

Given that 99% of the crimes are committed by repeat offenders, a simple dusting for fingerprints (costs pennies) could likely identify the culprit. But they don't bother. And they act like we've seen too many movies/tv shows. But when an "interesting" crime happens they do in fact dust for fingerprints (cheap!) and do all sorts of swabbing and testing (expensive). The police are lazy in CA especially. And yet they a…

The dust isn’t the expensive bit

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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You misunderstand, the optimal amount of "loss" both internal and external, from Apple's perspective, is greater then zero. They know they could do straight forward things to reduce it, like put everything in the back room so you have to ask for it, or hire security guards to physically prevent theft. But they decided that would be worse for business to prevent all theft then to simply have a few people steal stuff.…

That's the relative optimal loss given the alternatives presented. The absolute optimum is zero. >It being easy for people to grab thousands of dollars worth of stuff and run out of the store is a choice they made intentionally. Risking rape or death when I leave my house is a choice I make intentionally. That doesn't mean that murder is optimal or should be tolerated. There are straight forward ways crime could be r…

> The absolute optimum is zero.

Define optimum. It would be trivially easy for Apple to make theft at their stores absolutely zero.

How is that optimum though? The same measures that make theft zero would also drive away pretty much all legitimate business. Is that optimum for you?

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> He called police, who got a search warrant Kind of sad, that I was surprised they did that. It's definitely a local thing. I'd expect the police to shrug, and say it's too bad, just file a report to use for insurance. I remember people saying "so what if you have tags, police won't do anything and you shouldn't be confronting thieves anyway". Apple, on the other hand, is also explicit about tags not to be used as a…

In cities with less busy police departments, police actually do investigative work. I had police came by couple times asking for security footage for investigation nearby. One time it’s for a family member of a neighbor down the street “stole” a family car parked across the street. Another time was for an alarm wire tripped at 3am at a vacant house couple houses down the street. The footage showed a guy riding a bike slowly casing the houses along the street and 15 minutes later 3 cops spread out walking down the street sweeping the street with flashlights. I was quite impressed with the response time.

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That is a huge inventory. How do stolen tools get fenced? Sent abroad? Craigslist and FB marketplace? I've bought some used tools from online classifieds, but it always seems to be a homeowner or business owner selling one or two things.

Every flea market I have ever been to in my life always has some guy with a huge amount of lightly used and heavily assorted high-dollar power tools. Before Home Depot started putting tools in cages, I used to see a lot of craigslist/marketplace/etc postings for brand new and unopened tools, posted at amazing prices.

This article has some pictures from just a couple of months ago of street sales of tools: https://nypost.com/2024/04/14/us-news/nyc-block-turned-into-...
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