Leaked OpenAI documents reveal aggressive tactics toward former employees

Post by justinclift » Thu, May 23, 2024, 1:26 AM UTC

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #22

tedivm wrote: post #6

If this really was a mistake the easiest way to deal with it would be to release people from their non disparagement agreements that were only signed by leaving employees under the duress of losing their vested equity. It's really easy to make people whole for this, so whether that happens or not is the difference between the apologies being real or just them just backpedaling because employees got upset. Edit: Looks…

This reads like more than standard restrictions. I hate those like everyone, they are just intended to chill complaints in my opinion with enough question to scare average people without legal expertise (like me, like most devs), just like non-competes used to seemingly primarily be used to discourage looking at other jobs, separate from whether it was enforceable - note the recent FTC decision to end non-competes. A…

  "That's alright, as you said it's not enforceable anyway just remove it from everyone's
   contract.  It'll just be the new version of the contract for everyone."

Post by JumpCrisscross » Thu, May 23, 2024, 1:26 AM UTC

danielmarkbruce wrote: post #130

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Comp clawbacks are quite common in finance, at least contractually Never negotiated on exit.

I don't think it was negotiated on exit. It was threatened on exit. The ability to do it was almost certainly already in place.

Post by harrison_clarke » Thu, May 23, 2024, 1:26 AM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #30

0x5f3759df-i wrote: post #2

but sam said he was sorry in all lowercase so it must be okay

Semi off-topic, but the trend of AI influencers adopting the all-lowercase communication style in professional conversation has been very annoying. It makes them appear completely unserious. I recently received an job recruitment email for an AI role in all-lowercase and I was baffled how to interpret it.

Post by whitej125 » Thu, May 23, 2024, 1:27 AM UTC

benreesman wrote: post #227

tedivm wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have worked for multiple startups (Malwarebytes, Vicarious, Rad AI, Explosion AI, Aptible, Kenna Security). Not once have I seen an exit agreement that stated they would steal back my vested equity if I didn't sign. This is definitely not "standard restrictions".

I’ve heard of some pretty aggressive non-competes in finance, but AFAIU (never worked in Connecticut myself), it’s both the carrot and the stick: you get both paid and a stiff contract if you leave with proprietary alpha between the ears. In tech I’ve never even heard a rumor of something like this.

Post by mvdtnz » Thu, May 23, 2024, 1:31 AM UTC

user_7832 wrote: post #149

istjohn wrote: post #107

I wonder if this HN post will get torpedoed as fast as the one from yesterday[0]. 0. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40435440

I really wish there was some simple calculations that could be shown on how posts are ranked. For eg post A has x upvotes, y comments, is z minutes old and therefore rank 2. Post B has these values, while C is here. Hence this post went down the front page quickly. It's not that I don't trust the mods explicitly, it's just that showing such numbers (if they exist) would be helpful for transparency.