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It's definitely who you hang around with, but I think how the conversation is approached also dictates outcome. Talk about a political ruling class with most people, and they'll look at you as though you grew a third eyeball. Talk about the Dems and Repubs being out of touch with the average person due to the insulative effect of DC, and they'll usually agree. You can generally convey the same idea gently as long as…

You nailed it. This discussion would never have happened on HN if I hadn’t worded my original comment the way I did. It’s not how I wanted to word it ;)

Yup, I have that happen a lot. So, I can definitely empathize.

We're in this really weird place where some of us on different parts of the political spectrum who may not have previously agreed are now in general agreement one way or the other, just because politics itself has become so insane.

I mean, I'm a little crazy, I won't deny that. But it's kind of bugging me that phrasing matters far more than the idea. Most reasonable people would agree that the system is fundamentally broken. We might not agree on a solution, but at least we can look at it and say "yeah, this isn't sustainable." Unfortunately, if you use the wrong word around the wrong group of people, you get branded a little bonkers. :)

Re: Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance program after midnight

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So then be more specific: whose "common sense" do you have in mind?

People who are professionals in international relations, monetary policy, administering a country and other areas that these statements relate to.

Given the present state of international relations, monetary policy, or the country in general, I'm no longer sure such people even exist. There are certainly many people who would like the proles to think so, and to vote them into power on that basis. But it doesn't appear to be translating to policies that are actually good for most of us, somehow.

Re: Senate passes reauthorization of key US surveillance program after midnight

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I mean, except that many people can’t get either an abortion or IVF. This affects people’s entires lives, it’s not “pretend” unless you are unaffected.

This happened under a Democratic president. And what have they done about it since?

Pretty sure the GOP controls the House. Do you expect Biden to sit at a desk and sign a bill that can’t pass the House?
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