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Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by itishappy »

gardenhedge wrote: post #164
kredd wrote: post #87

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It’s been legal since 2018, up here in Canada, and other than extreme amount of cannabis shops in every other block, it’s basically been the same as pre-legalization. People who were into it, still into it. People who didn’t still don’t. Maybe just the people who were curious but didn’t want to try it because it was illegal tried it out and joined either of the camps. I’m not the biggest fan, but as a person who enjo…

What about "new" people? If it's legal I would assume more people of new generations of people will try it

It remains illegal for youth consumption.

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Post by tester89 »

GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #238

I've lived in California, now Amsterdam. Both places where weed has been legal for a while, but because it's legal there's an incredible economic pressure to grow the most potent weed possible. I'm like a 2 joint a year kind of guy, and it's nearly impossible to find "ditch weed" that doesn't put me on the floor for 4 hours.

Couldn’t you just smoke less?

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Post by throwaway2037 »

super256 wrote: post #229
Gigachad wrote: post #197

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Same problem with cigarette smoke though.

Cigarettes only smell when being lit, marijuana smells always. And the smell is way more potent. Both suck though, I agree.

    > Cigarettes only smell when being lit
I am confused. Second hand smoke smells awful, and cigarettes emit second hand smoke the entire time they are lit. Does this not count?

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Post by yunohn »

slow_typist wrote: post #228
yunohn wrote: post #17

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This is the case in the Netherlands, despite a better legalization status. I’ve never seen a rental allow growing cannabis. Some larger rental agencies even perform yearly inspections.

Yearly inspections, how can that be lawful in a EU country?

So the justification given is that if police find a scaled grow house operation going on, the landlord is fined and the house is seized/boarded up. So they are softly incentivized to regularly inspect and prevent such a situation.

However, I do believe it’s not absolutely mandatory. During COVID, I was able to cancel the yearly inspection twice.

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Post by goosedragons »

jijijijij wrote: post #226
goosedragons wrote: post #217

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Come on. Only really cigarette smoke and fertilizer is remotely comparable. And the latter is pretty rare unless you live in the country. There's no such thing as a "pleasant" weed smoke. You only like it because you're smoking it.

How are these things not comparable? It's all smells which linger and affect people around, but have to be tolerated as personal freedom of the offender. I guess, apart from indoor smoking without proper ventilation (illegal in Germany), car exhausts are the only other thing which should be illegal , because of the huge burden on public health and the objective impact on another's life. If I have to tolerate even car…

Coffee breath? Cinnamon gum? MAYBE you'll notice those things a foot away from someone in a one to one conversation. I can tell someone is smoking a joint across the street. I can tell the person in the unit below me is smoking weed. I can't tell you if they had coffee, cinnamon gum or are wearing perfume. The strength isn't remotely comparable. Car exhaust, while not great doesn't have even close to the bad smell weed smoke has.

And I live in country with already legal and easily accessible weed with a wide variety of strains. I don't think I'm just smelling skunk weed.

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Post by kredd »

dandy23 wrote: post #189
kredd wrote: post #176

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Yeah regulated in terms of amount you can grow, sell, how much you can sell at a time, how much you can have in edibles, inside one package and etc. It was very weird in the beginning since the production didn't catch up with the demand, so was very expensive and sounded like quality was sub-par, making the regulars to rely on black market. Now, well, I guess you can still go with black market, but everyone I know th…

What is meant with "legal cannabis"? That the last step somehow is a licensed dealer selling? Or is is guaranteed the whole chain from farmer to point of sales is legal?

Basically the whole chain.

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Post by encom »

GordonS wrote: post #134
encom wrote: post #130

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>vapour doesn't "stick" to things I used to vape indoors, and vape absolutely does stick to everything if you don't have good ventilation. It doesn't smell like toboacco, but it's this greasy/sticky coating instead. It was total shit-show to clean everything when I moved.

I've vaped indoors for 3 years, using a dry herb vape with flower on prescription, and we haven't noticed anything at all. I have family that visit once a year, they were here recently and didn't notice anything (my wife asked, because she's paranoid about the smell). Many others seem to agree. Maybe it's different if you use carts, I don't know what's even in those.

I mixed my own juice at the time. It was vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol as a base, with added flavourings.

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Post by jijijijij »

goosedragons wrote: post #245
jijijijij wrote: post #226

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How are these things not comparable? It's all smells which linger and affect people around, but have to be tolerated as personal freedom of the offender. I guess, apart from indoor smoking without proper ventilation (illegal in Germany), car exhausts are the only other thing which should be illegal , because of the huge burden on public health and the objective impact on another's life. If I have to tolerate even car…

Coffee breath? Cinnamon gum? MAYBE you'll notice those things a foot away from someone in a one to one conversation. I can tell someone is smoking a joint across the street. I can tell the person in the unit below me is smoking weed. I can't tell you if they had coffee, cinnamon gum or are wearing perfume. The strength isn't remotely comparable. Car exhaust, while not great doesn't have even close to the bad smell we…

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by xtqv »

trallnag wrote: post #215
jakupovic wrote: post #204

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Wow you need to step out of your parents basement and experience more of the world rather than made up "models" you play with. I'm sure you don't eat different foods or don't try different spices because of reasons. In any case people like you shouldn't be allowed to judge others and impose any rules on anyone but themselves.

> people like you But other people are allowed to judge?

It's not about simply "allowing" judgment; it's about the credibility of those passing judgment. Experience, education, and critical thinking are the pillars upon which valid judgments stand.

Basing one's opinion heavily on one experience, viewed from the outside, is a demonstration of anchoring bias and egocentric bias respectively. Outside perspective cannot include what personal revelations or trauma processing is going on inside the head of the "apathetic" experiencer. It overlooks the diversity of experiences and potential reasons behind the observed behaviour, and is intellectually dishonest in avoiding the other cannabis consumption methods which points to a lack of depth in judgment.

Indeed, a person with a strongly held opinion based on an anecdote, wrought with textbook cognitive biases, is the kind of person who would deny themselves the opportunity to see their cognitive bases in action because of their snap judgment. Should we value judgments made by this kind of person? What kind of person should impose rules on others?

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

goosedragons wrote: post #245
jijijijij wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are these things not comparable? It's all smells which linger and affect people around, but have to be tolerated as personal freedom of the offender. I guess, apart from indoor smoking without proper ventilation (illegal in Germany), car exhausts are the only other thing which should be illegal , because of the huge burden on public health and the objective impact on another's life. If I have to tolerate even car…

Coffee breath? Cinnamon gum? MAYBE you'll notice those things a foot away from someone in a one to one conversation. I can tell someone is smoking a joint across the street. I can tell the person in the unit below me is smoking weed. I can't tell you if they had coffee, cinnamon gum or are wearing perfume. The strength isn't remotely comparable. Car exhaust, while not great doesn't have even close to the bad smell we…

> I can tell the person in the unit below me is smoking weed.

I can tell when my neighbour has potato or prawns for dinner. And anyone in this apartment building can smell the burnt garlic. I like garlic smell but not burnt garlic smell.

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