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Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Cathedrals (or technically in this case, a church) being built over decades or centuries is pretty common! This might be one of the quicker ones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne_Cathedral took six centuries, although they started and stopped a few times.

Fair but those projects didn't happen during the 1900s where i would expect them to take long times for procurement and build.

While it took less time (a mere 74 years) Liverpool Cathedral is an example of a long-running 1900s project.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Cathedral

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If I am not mistaken, the original designs were destroyed during the Spanish Civil War.

Yeah iirc his studio burned down at the hands of anarchist vandalists. Building some great indulgent monument to god wasn't exactly uncontroversial in the political climate at the time, as I understand it. Anyway, his plans wouldn't have been detailed enough to just go and build it. There was a lot of interpretation to be done in any case.

I think all of this makes it a more fascinating building.

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It’s referring to the collaboration on the design itself.

Even that isn't true. Lots of original models/drawings have been lost, new designers interpret or reconstruct what they think Gaudi wanted to do, based on incomplete plans or where decisions weren't fully made. Not to mention new materials are available today that are being used and new processes/workflows which change the results slightly too. Sagrada Familia isn't a 100% implementation of the original vision, as ev…

> Sagrada Familia isn't a 100% implementation of the original vision

That's what makes it more interesting and fascinating.

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It won't. Gaudí's plan was to build a big staircase in front of it creating a new public square next to the temple, replacing some apartment buildings currently being used. Gaudí's project won't be finished until then. There's some pushback from the neighbors because finishing it all means bulldozing hundreds of apartments, although those apartments were bought at a discounted price decades ago because everyone knew…

When I was there, they said the project will finish in 2150.

So they will be working on this for 200 years. The only institution that could survive that long is the catholic church.

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post #241

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Fair but those projects didn't happen during the 1900s where i would expect them to take long times for procurement and build.

While it took less time (a mere 74 years) Liverpool Cathedral is an example of a long-running 1900s project. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Cathedral

Great example. So with my qualifier Sagrada Familia might be the longest running modern day piece of construction.

Also Liverpool is one impressively sized cathedral.

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I've been and to me it looked more weird than beautiful. Like something from the set of Farscape. The quasi-organic forms are almost disturbing. I was surprised the clergy of the time agreed to it.

Impressive sure, but in the way of "Wow, there is a lot of work in this weird thing"

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Looking at the surrounding building of the Sagrada, just makes me wonder again, what the hell happened to modern architecture. Modern architecture has destroyed our cities. It's hard to find a building build after WO2 that's actually pretty, let alone an entire neighborhood. Nothing compared the historic cities of Europe. In a time when it's cheaper then ever to build, they've not been able to build anything even clo…

The thing is, most of the 60's/70's building look like shit from outside but are pretty nice and super funcional from the inside while some older ones were made for an era where people had huge hotel particuliers with servants and stuff and the current appartments have been build by splitting those in parts. Those appartments that aren't as well made/functionnal despite being nice to look at and having lots of vertic…

I’ve found most of the 60’s and 70’s building in the U.S. to be just the opposite myself. Often stairwells are hidden, sometimes behind multiple doors, so even going up a single flight of stairs usually involves waiting for an elevator. A lot of places seem to use space in a bizarre way - lobbies that are much too large and empty, the functional areas being cramped and small. Ceilings that are much too high, which not only waste space but lead to many functional issues (changing a bulb that’s 16 feet up is much more difficult than changing one that’s 8 feet up). Windows that are pulled back from the wall so they get much less natural lighting.

The whole thing feels like the architectural profession became interested in impressing each other with designs that they thought looked cool, and seemed to forget that people actually had to use these spaces. The areas here with buildings from that area usually feel much more dead than areas with buildings from almost any other era.

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