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Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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Probably good that we lost them. Judging by photos [1] of some of the rare cases of humans who were born with tails human tails wouldn't be aesthetically pleasing. Although perhaps human tails that are the result of something going awry might not be a good indicator of what human tails would be like if we had kept them. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3263034/

NSFW, in case you are thinking about checking the link out.

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Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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Coming from a stand-up striking Muay Thai perspective the only low risk way to grab a leg is intercepting a kick. You are then out of range of their upper body attacks and have total leverage physically and tactically. At that point unless the fighter whose leg is grabbed is extremely experienced in keeping a one foot balance by avoiding sweeps (ignoring the fact that one can bring the fight to the ground in MMA or B…

Having done muay thai for several years - this is why muay thai doesn’t do well in less regulated environments, like MMA or actual street fights. Because muay thai has a very structured set of rules and an environment which constrains it so that is the case. much less so than western boxing obviously, but the issue is even more obvious there. generally still way better than no training of course. BJJ folks consistent…

I agree with the octagon scenario, but not with a streetfight. If you're outnumbered, it is not advisable to go to ground. That is when rapid high damage strikes and the ability to dodge, block, or soak hits make you not just a physical weapon but psychological.

By the way, in full traditional muay thai, both quick and prolonged stand-up grappling is trained for.

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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Having done muay thai for several years - this is why muay thai doesn’t do well in less regulated environments, like MMA or actual street fights. Because muay thai has a very structured set of rules and an environment which constrains it so that is the case. much less so than western boxing obviously, but the issue is even more obvious there. generally still way better than no training of course. BJJ folks consistent…

I agree with the octagon scenario, but not with a streetfight. If you're outnumbered, it is not advisable to go to ground. That is when rapid high damage strikes and the ability to dodge, block, or soak hits make you not just a physical weapon but psychological. By the way, in full traditional muay thai, both quick and prolonged stand-up grappling is trained for.

I never said it was a good idea to go to ground in a street fight - but if you end up there (very possible!), Muay Thai isn’t going to help you technique wise. Conditioning would of course.

BJJ is as often about transitioning to and from, and controlling on the ground fighting - so having both would be pretty solid ‘academically’ probably.

It’s not like if you get jumped in a dark alley by someone they’ll just back off and let you get up if you fall down. Unless they were really stupid anyway.

Same with broken bottles, random street junk used as weapons, knives, multiple opponents, etc.

Which neither are going to teach you much about practically in real life, but better than nothing.

I think I forgot to mention how the best way to win a fight is to not get in one? Haha.

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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What is this referencing?

The dehydrate comment is a reference to the three body problem - a great book!

And a series on Netflix at the moment. Quite watchable.

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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I believe this suggests that we could CRISPR an embryo to knock-out the offending Alu element in the TBXT gene and the child will develop a tail.

Yes, the genome-layer is nondeterministic. But there are also more layers that are probably just as nondeterministic, adding more complexity to your view. Other layers include: epigenome-layer, transcriptome-layer, proteome-layer Each layer can compensate for deficiencies in another layer. So lets say you knock out a gene in utero and it has a phenotype. But when you do the same procedure in an adult organism, there…

The first domino between the present and a world full of cat girls has fallen.

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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And they're unhygenic. Sheep farmers for instance routinely cut the tails of their flock because it is difficult to shear and becomes a breeding ground for blowfly larvae. That said, i saw a movie called Shallow Hal(2001) which had a scene in which a man was shown to have a tail. Now it may have been cgi, but it made me think that there must be a minority of humans with that mutation.

Its not because of the tail but because of the farms. Sad state of how we do farming at scale.

If someone can think of a better way to feed 8 billion people into obesity and early death cheaply then we'll do that instead.

Re: Scientists have traced human tail loss to a short sequence of genetic code

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wings

Wings are so fascinating. Flying animals have their whole body, from their brain, digestive system, down to their bones internal structure and function [0] optimized for flight. That's where we see species giving up flight ability to get a stronger body, and I wonder what it would take for us to do the reverse to be able to use these wings in any way. [0] https://www.montananaturalist.org/blog-post/avian-adaptation..…

It would be an awful trade. Weaker, dumber, slower. All for something that isn’t very good and we wouldn’t use very much.

People would prefer to drive rather than fly because you’ll get soaking wet. Unless you just go around naked or something.

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