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Update: communications have been a bit glitchy but the craft has made a safe landing and is transmitting data. Was watching NASA administrator Bill Nelson's congratulatory message; can't help wondering if he also recorded a commiseration one looking to the future in case it didn't work...
But seriously, it's weird how this really didn't make a lot of news today overall. Did the cellular outage really overshadow this? Times have changes if so. Our idea of "wow!" has been desensitized I guess. Pretty impressive to me!
Update: communications have been a bit glitchy but the craft has made a safe landing and is transmitting data. Was watching NASA administrator Bill Nelson's congratulatory message; can't help wondering if he also recorded a commiseration one looking to the future in case it didn't work...
Maybe it had an AT&T SIM? ;) But seriously, it's weird how this really didn't make a lot of news today overall. Did the cellular outage really overshadow this? Times have changes if so. Our idea of "wow!" has been desensitized I guess. Pretty impressive to me!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuitive_Machines_Nova-C#Eagl... : “EagleCam to record lunar landing Just before landing, at approximately 30 m (98 ft) above the lunar surface, the Odysseus lander will eject the EagleCam camera-equipped CubeSat, which will drop onto the lunar surface near the lander, with an impact velocity of about 10 m/s (22 mph). From the surface the EagleCam will attempt to capture the first third…
I always assumed that space was noisy enough that things like wifi wouldn't work on the lunar surface.
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The big improvement is not launch costs, but miniaturization and automation. A university team can make a credible lunar rover or cubesat today using off-the-shelf components. Unlike launch vehicles, that technology did not exist in 001960, or even 002000, at any price.
i came here for an argument, but this is just contradiction it doesn't matter if you can make a credible lunar rover or not if the price to launch it is three times the grant the nsf will give your university team. given that nasa published their lunar roving vehicle documentation in mostly 0001973, down to circuit schematics and some machining dimensions, i'm pretty sure a university team in 00002000 could have dupl…
Beyond that I'm not sure what we're arguing about, so I'll tap out here.
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I always assumed that space was noisy enough that things like wifi wouldn't work on the lunar surface.
I don't know specifically about wifi but, check out EME bounces. With a hand held ham radio on the 6M band and a directional antenna made from like $6 of supplies from your local hardware store, you can have a radio that can bounce a signal off the moon and talk to someone on the other side of the earth.
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Assuming you are talking about FCC Part 15 regulations for 2.4 GHz, you couldn't be more wrong. There is no 'sabotage' The EIRP is 4 watts in 2.4 GHz band. More than enough to wipe out your neighbors. Also more than enough to get absolutely tremendous range in line of sight conditions. I can purchase and install an unlimited number of 2.4 GHz Part 15 devices, rendering the band useless to anyone so long as I am attem…
Why isn’t the limit 40 watts? Or 400? Why is there a limit at all? You can pedantically criticize the use of the word “sabotage”, but then you’d be entirely missing the point.
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Maybe it had an AT&T SIM? ;) But seriously, it's weird how this really didn't make a lot of news today overall. Did the cellular outage really overshadow this? Times have changes if so. Our idea of "wow!" has been desensitized I guess. Pretty impressive to me!
The JWST is on a similar level of impressive (if not more), and arguably more important than a single moon landing, and the general public doesn't have much interest in that either.
EDIT: And for JWST for the average person it's just a new Hubble.
Ridiculous this isn't more prominent in mainstream news. Eg. I open Google News to stories of killers and a new real estate tax and some sort of scandal by an actor. This is why I come to HN instead.
Google News is absolute garbage these days. Their algorithmic curation has not kept up with SEO and still treats popularity as a proxy for significance.
I didn't know about them. I recently watched the whole https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_All_Mankind_(TV_series) and was mesmerized by it - it's alternative reality fiction, where a private company comes to land on Mars!
Yeah, For All Mankind is a great show for people who are excited about this kind of stuff. It's an alternative-history fictional drama exploring "What if" the space race never ended.