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Re: RustPython

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Post by IshKebab »

ptx wrote: post #240
IshKebab wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You literally gave a different process on Windows to Linux.

It's the same process described with different syntax for different operating systems. It contains no "ah yes and you need to" and is not "deep". Here's a templated version of the same process, if you prefer, which works on both Windows and Linux: 1. [PATH TO YOUR PYTHON COMMAND IN WHATEVER PYTHON DISTRIBUTION YOU YOURSELF INSTALLED ON YOUR OS OF CHOICE] -m venv --upgrade-deps my-virtual-environment 2. [PATH TO PIP C…

The fact that some parts of the command are the same doesn't excuse the other parts being pointlessly different. It's a paper cut for beginners. One of hundreds, which makes the whole Python UX completely awful.

Re: RustPython

#242

Post by pletnes »

IshKebab wrote: post #241
ptx wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the same process described with different syntax for different operating systems. It contains no "ah yes and you need to" and is not "deep". Here's a templated version of the same process, if you prefer, which works on both Windows and Linux: 1. [PATH TO YOUR PYTHON COMMAND IN WHATEVER PYTHON DISTRIBUTION YOU YOURSELF INSTALLED ON YOUR OS OF CHOICE] -m venv --upgrade-deps my-virtual-environment 2. [PATH TO PIP C…

The fact that some parts of the command are the same doesn't excuse the other parts being pointlessly different. It's a paper cut for beginners. One of hundreds, which makes the whole Python UX completely awful.

Which languages do this much better? Honest question.

Re: RustPython

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Post by IshKebab »

pletnes wrote: post #242
IshKebab wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that some parts of the command are the same doesn't excuse the other parts being pointlessly different. It's a paper cut for beginners. One of hundreds, which makes the whole Python UX completely awful.

Which languages do this much better? Honest question.

Rust, Go, Javascript/Typescript, Java, C#, Dart, ... I mean it's basically all of them except C/C++. And OCaml. OCaml is the worst.

Rust, Go and Deno are definitely part of a new breed of "developer tooling should just bloody work!" languages. Python is from the era of "eh, you figure it out" mixed with a little of "I'm making this up as I go along".

Re: RustPython

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Post by pletnes »

IshKebab wrote: post #243
pletnes wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which languages do this much better? Honest question.

Rust, Go, Javascript/Typescript, Java, C#, Dart, ... I mean it's basically all of them except C/C++. And OCaml. OCaml is the worst. Rust, Go and Deno are definitely part of a new breed of "developer tooling should just bloody work!" languages. Python is from the era of "eh, you figure it out" mixed with a little of "I'm making this up as I go along".

True, the last three build tooling as a part of the language from the start.

Java? I seem to recall build systems and tooling being more pain than Fortran. Not sure I believe that one. Certainly not my experience.

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