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Post by pvaldes »

EasyMark wrote: post #231
pvaldes wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if I remember correctly Dentists had more cases of alzheimer than other groups of doctors. I heard it some time ago. If is a prion, it should resist most sterilization of dental instruments by heat on autoclave. So is obvious IMAO that this could be a way to spread the disease from one patient to other, but I'm not an expert on clinic procedures and the protocols may have been updated. This is known, or at least susp…

do you recall percentages? like 10% higher or 5x higher?

Don't remember, sorry. It was a lot of time ago. The articles should be listed in scientific indexes.

Dentists are a special group that worked a lot with mercury in the past, dunno if is related but it could be a combination of risk factors. We should ask a chemist.

In any case today the facts can be very different.

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mips_r4300i wrote: post #201
twothamendment wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The immune system is complicated as hell." You got that right! My wife used to eat a banana every day. Then something in her flipped and she reacts as if she is allergic to bananas and the rest of the world - not exaggerating. She can eat a very small number of foods and has to avoid most people because of smells. It isn't allergies it is - you guessed it - her immune system. If we could just flip it back to "normal…

Same thing happened to me. I was eating bananas, beef, coffee, etc. then I got some sort of viral infection. My thyroid became inflamed for a couple months. No doctor was able to find anything wrong with me. Little did I know, having postviral sequelae causes my immune system to start hating many things I used to eat. A food blood sensitive test showed that bananas, beef, coffee were what set my immune system off the…

Did the smell of a banana, or just having one in the house set you off - or did you have to eat it to have a response?

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Post by mips_r4300i »

twothamendment wrote: post #243
mips_r4300i wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same thing happened to me. I was eating bananas, beef, coffee, etc. then I got some sort of viral infection. My thyroid became inflamed for a couple months. No doctor was able to find anything wrong with me. Little did I know, having postviral sequelae causes my immune system to start hating many things I used to eat. A food blood sensitive test showed that bananas, beef, coffee were what set my immune system off the…

Did the smell of a banana, or just having one in the house set you off - or did you have to eat it to have a response?

Only eating bananas

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Post by caycep »

dimask wrote: post #80
caycep wrote: post #44

There is a line of research into the "transmissible' phenomena of a lot of these neurodegen dz. Epidemiologically, it's probably not infectious from one person to another bc we don't see spouses getting PD or AD often. But there's interesting phenomena - i.e. one of the Parkinson's stem cell implantation trials got a lot of press after the trial (which failed, didn't show benefit) bc after subjects passed several yea…

> we don't see spouses getting PD or AD often Actually it may seem so [1], though still there is not any conclusive evidence to support a transmission hypothesis really as all this could be due to increased stress and such factors. Also, brain surgeons' increased risk of AD and more reports of associated risks with regard to contamination from brain operations [2] (similar to the article's ones) provide more indicati…

Yes there may be these individual case reports - but in practice - I would say, most spouses of PD patients don't seem to get it. There's like 2 exceptions out of 1000 patients in our clinic, but not enough that I feel like running to my epidemiologist with my hair on fire.

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Post by caycep »

devmor wrote: post #98
caycep wrote: post #44

There is a line of research into the "transmissible' phenomena of a lot of these neurodegen dz. Epidemiologically, it's probably not infectious from one person to another bc we don't see spouses getting PD or AD often. But there's interesting phenomena - i.e. one of the Parkinson's stem cell implantation trials got a lot of press after the trial (which failed, didn't show benefit) bc after subjects passed several yea…

Can you explain more or give a source on that parkinsons stem cell trial? I’m not sure I understand what happened and I’d like to learn about it.

It's been a while since I looked at this stuff so apologies for the rustiness

Columbia trial paper: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm200103083441002

Tampa trial paper: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12953276/

Additionally, it looks like I totally missed at least one European program at Lund University (review paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5345652/)

I've heard rumblings re preclinical prep work w/ the Takashi group at Kyoto University as well, not sure where that's at at the moment.

I randomly found this review, but haven't had a chance to plough thru it yet, but I wouldn't be surprised that the stem cell tech these days makes whatever they used 20 years ago ancient and crude by comparison https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9890289/

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Post by caycep »

devmor wrote: post #98
caycep wrote: post #44

There is a line of research into the "transmissible' phenomena of a lot of these neurodegen dz. Epidemiologically, it's probably not infectious from one person to another bc we don't see spouses getting PD or AD often. But there's interesting phenomena - i.e. one of the Parkinson's stem cell implantation trials got a lot of press after the trial (which failed, didn't show benefit) bc after subjects passed several yea…

Can you explain more or give a source on that parkinsons stem cell trial? I’m not sure I understand what happened and I’d like to learn about it.

Additionally, this was the followup paper that found Lewy bodies developing in the transplanted cells (suggesting some sort of spread/prion-like hypothesis with regards to Lewy bodies/insoluble alpha synuclein)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18391962/

edit: competing group also managed to publish theirs at the same time

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18391963/

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