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Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by johnnyanmac »

xigoi wrote: post #227
johnnyanmac wrote: post #148

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I've been curious for a while too and I've been trying to de-google myself a tiny bit each year (more or less dropped Chrome in 2023). Once I actually grab a full time job again I wouldn't mind grabbing my own subscription here to try it out. I'm curious if 300 searches/month is truly enough for me, though. And what would happen if I go over that rate. Am I simply unable to search more for that month?

Look at your browser history to find out how much you search. I was surprised to find that I’m consistently nowhere near 300.

Yeah, I found the opposite for me, as I expected. I did a little under 400 queries in the last 30 days. I could definitely cut down a lot of redundant or simple searches to get under 400, but given how ubiquitous it is for me to simply so random questions (or simply search around a lot for documentation via search engine) I'd rather not have to worry about it.

On top of that, this is during a month without any job (where I'd search even more on the clock). I hear it's 1.5 cents per query over but I can imagine doing 600+ searches once I'm employed again.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by diggan »

xigoi wrote: post #227
johnnyanmac wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been curious for a while too and I've been trying to de-google myself a tiny bit each year (more or less dropped Chrome in 2023). Once I actually grab a full time job again I wouldn't mind grabbing my own subscription here to try it out. I'm curious if 300 searches/month is truly enough for me, though. And what would happen if I go over that rate. Am I simply unable to search more for that month?

Look at your browser history to find out how much you search. I was surprised to find that I’m consistently nowhere near 300.

> I was surprised to find that I’m consistently nowhere near 300

Per month?

My current Kagi searches from 3rd of January until today sits at 1256 searches. For sure I'd do 300 searches in a week, and on a particularly hairy day I might do it in a day.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by diggan »

greenmartian wrote: post #163
layoric wrote: post #77

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Another Kagi user here, yes, the customization of results is way better than any other search engine I've used. Eg, personalization can be manually set to lower or raise weight of results from specific domains. This has become extremely useful to not only filter out bad sites, but increase relevant results when you regularly get information from sites like GitHub etc. Stats are released about these as well so you can…

Interesting that HN is pinned way more than stackoverflow.

If they do/done a user survey, it would be interesting to see where all paying users are coming from. My guess is that a substantial amount of users come from hearing about Kagi on HN or in HN comments.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by xigoi »

diggan wrote: post #242
xigoi wrote: post #227

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Look at your browser history to find out how much you search. I was surprised to find that I’m consistently nowhere near 300.

> I was surprised to find that I’m consistently nowhere near 300 Per month? My current Kagi searches from 3rd of January until today sits at 1256 searches. For sure I'd do 300 searches in a week, and on a particularly hairy day I might do it in a day.

300 per day??? That’s a search per minute for 5 hours. Are you even doing anything else?

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by justinclift »

freediver wrote: post #233
jsnell wrote: post #216

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Sure, that's why I explicitly stated it was a back of the envelope calculation. It wont be right to the penny, but it will certainly have the right order of magnitude. I'll assert that even a back of the envelope calculation is more useful than your initial "they must be sustainable unless the infra is inefficient, and it feels like it isn't" statement. Do you have an actual number rather than feelings? Is that numbe…

Vlad from Kagi here. We are very close to breakeven currently, with 4+ years runway with current spend and it gets better every day. Budget for shirts was allocated months ago. Kagi is slightly different than other SV startups in how we approach things because of the freedom given by being (nearly) completely bootstrapped and built with sustainability in mind since day one. Some companies buy ads to attract new custo…

> We are very close to breakeven currently ...

Cool. Didn't realise that.

That's really good news as it proves the "search engine people pay for" concept is workable, unlike what many people seemed to think. :)

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by diggan »

xigoi wrote: post #244
diggan wrote: post #242

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> I was surprised to find that I’m consistently nowhere near 300 Per month? My current Kagi searches from 3rd of January until today sits at 1256 searches. For sure I'd do 300 searches in a week, and on a particularly hairy day I might do it in a day.

300 per day??? That’s a search per minute for 5 hours. Are you even doing anything else?

Eh?

> 3rd of January until today sits at 1256 searches

1256 / 23 (days between today and Jan 3rd) = 54.6 searches on average per day.

Some days higher, some lower. Sometimes it can take a couple of tries to get the search right, so you do 5-10 searches in one minute maybe. Doesn't seem farfetched to me.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by xigoi »

diggan wrote: post #246
xigoi wrote: post #244

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300 per day??? That’s a search per minute for 5 hours. Are you even doing anything else?

Eh? > 3rd of January until today sits at 1256 searches 1256 / 23 (days between today and Jan 3rd) = 54.6 searches on average per day. Some days higher, some lower. Sometimes it can take a couple of tries to get the search right, so you do 5-10 searches in one minute maybe. Doesn't seem farfetched to me.

> For sure I'd do 300 searches in a week, and on a particularly hairy day I might do it in a day.

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by ijhuygft776 »

Departed7405 wrote: post #168
ijhuygft776 wrote: post #120

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There's a Firefox addon that does that too [0]... and another one made specifically for old.reddit [1] 0. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/redirector/ 1. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re...

Add-ons are terrible because they fingerprint you.Javascript allows for sharing of addons names. Having this niche add-on coupled with your device and browser type, IP, timezone this gives unique fingerprint. This comes from someone who used to have 50+ Firefox add-ons.

unfortunately, your fingerprint is more than likely unique either way: https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by martin82 »

I must say, as a long term paying customer (pretty much since day 1), I'm a little bit shocked that they have only so few paying customers.

People really have their priorities wrong when it comes to spending small amounts of money per month...

Re: Kagi search reached 20k paying members

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Post by wkat4242 »

I hardly use search engines anymore. So there's no point in paying for Kagi.

90% of the time I'm not looking for a website, I need the answer to a question. I can either spend 15 minutes sifting through clickbait sites until I finally find the answer, or I can spend 15 seconds asking a chatbot.

For the handful times a month I still need to find a webpage there's no point in paying for one..

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