I feel extremely uncomfortable using any of my devices.
Only now?
Governments spying on Apple, Google users through push notifications
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Re: Governments spying on Apple, Google users through push notifications
#242Why do they need to confirm an already known fact: FAANG platforms are built to spy on users? We've known about this fact for at least a decade since the Snowden revelations. Nothing has materially changed since then, technically, politically, legally, or even culturally. Yet people still believe for-profit corporations have their best interests in mind, thanks to clever marketing and groupthink, clutching to "encryp…
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#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
They mention metadata in the article. Imagine sending a message to a Signal account at time X, then asking Apple a list of all users that received a Signal notification at that specific time.
That doesn't make sense. I would expect Signal notifications to happen completely out-of-band with "normal" push notifications (e.g. NYT news alert). Otherwise that completely defeats the purpose of the service. Basically you're saying Apple/Google are MITM'ing Signal.
This is just how push notifications work on iOS and Android. The app requests a push token from the operating system, sends that to its backend and stores it against the user's identity. To send a push a message is sent from the backend to a push service maintained by Apple or Google, who then deliver the push to the phone in question. In the case of Signal, their backend cannot access the message content, so the notification does not contain this, i.e. it's not MITM.
On iOS in particular background modes are finicky and you cannot generally have an continuously poll notifications in the background. Further, if every app did this battery drain would be significant.
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It's important but what do we do about it? You're using the internet afterall which isn't your network- it's someone else's! When you send a packet there is a header w/ information required for routing. Some call this the "outside of the envelope" if using the mail analogy. We can pass the buck by using a VPN but this also adds a VPN org that we need to trust. On the other hand, it's not your network! Why do you thin…
So every person in the world should build his own "network"?
No, it's just a case of facing reality. The internet is built by other people and we have to trust (or not) that they are going to honor the responsibility that entails, from security to ethics. The internet is also funded by learning as much as possible about users in general so using the internet is accepting that you will be tracked. Increasing personal security is good, but no silver bullet.
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This is a common misconception. The 100 mile radius does not waive 4th Amendment protection. A reasonable suspicion of immigration law violation is still required to detain, search and ultimately arrest individuals. To wit: please name a single instance of someone having their rights abused by this so-called "zone".
Not sure why down voted. Even the quoted article states: > Border Patrol, nevertheless, cannot pull anyone over without “reasonable suspicion” of an immigration violation or crime (reasonable suspicion is more than just a “hunch”). Similarly, Border Patrol cannot search vehicles in the 100-mile zone without a warrant or “probable cause” (a reasonable belief, based on the circumstances, that an immigration violation o…
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Re: Governments spying on Apple, Google users through push notifications
#246Now we know why Apple and Google are a duopoly…. You get the illusion of choice but you get the same government spying on you in either case.
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Wyden knows such a bill wouldn't pass specifically because of its unconstitutionality. This was about picking up media coverage by throwing red meat at voters. Congress has been in a state of deadlock for too long to pass any actual laws, so this type of performative theater ahead of midterm elections is what passes for statesmanship.
That's awfully generous. He co-sponsored a bad law that he didn't actually want to see passed?
He may definitely want to see it passed. But elected officials should not be engaging in pushing bills that won't pass their first legal challenge.
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#249>> Reuters' source would not identify which governments were making the data requests but described them as "democracies allied to the United States."
It feels so liberating to be spied upon by "democracies allied to the United States." vs. others.
LOL.
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> The only teeth congress has with these bureaucracies is the power of the purse. Not true. Congress can make laws defining what those agencies are and are not allowed to do.
And if the agencies go outside the bounds of those laws like some currently do?
Then those who are victimized take it to court. If the agency committed an actual crime, then there's a path for that to be prosecuted as well.
It's certainly not a perfect system, but it's successfully done all the time.