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Unless you have special equipment that requires the space you don't need an extra room, you want an extra room.
I've got two monitors and a laptop on 1/3 of my computer desk. I'm huddled on a corner literally the point is right where I work. My mouse is 10cm from the desk edge. It sure feels like I need extra room.
California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses
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Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses
#242Many young people or those cheering for employee/consumer rights do not seem to understand that this does more net harm than good. For small businesses and startups, this can amount to millions of dollars of additional expenses. Like any economically rational entity, your employer is going to respond by reducing headcount, not hiring in CA anymore, cutting costs in your annual raises, or some combination of the above…
Fully remote work has always benefited the employer more than the employee, at least financially. Before the pandemic closed my employer's local office space (we were all told just to work from home), part of the employer's budget for each employee included infrastructure costs (office space, furniture, internet access, maybe food, beverages, etc). My salary did not change when I became fully remote, so the company r…
Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses
#243Many young people or those cheering for employee/consumer rights do not seem to understand that this does more net harm than good. For small businesses and startups, this can amount to millions of dollars of additional expenses. Like any economically rational entity, your employer is going to respond by reducing headcount, not hiring in CA anymore, cutting costs in your annual raises, or some combination of the above…
A computer uses 150kWh/year @ $0.42/kWh that is $75/year. Certainly internet is possible at $60/month so $720/year. Say you have a generous $500/5 years for equipment plan and you are still below $1,000/year/employee. Yes there are other expenses but you should already be providing a PC etc. How are you getting to millions at a small company? Certainly a shop with 3,000 people is out a few million but... You have 3,0…
So California is adding a bunch of administrative expenses for something that will net out to a few thousand dollars max per employee. Workers that have to go the office easily spend more than this on just commuting costs.
Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
> For small businesses and startups, this can amount to millions of dollars of additional expenses. There's an adjustment needed. I have worked for and applied to healthcare startups that want you to BYO device. For working on PHI. In Production. We're not "all in this together". We all know that equity is worth nothing until proven otherwise. Stop cheaping out and expecting your employees to invest in your success w…
> If that means fewer/smaller startups, small businesses? Ultimately, so be it. This is really what it comes down to. If your business can't afford to employ people then people don't need to work for less, your business needs to cease operations. This bizarre entitlement entrepreneurs seem to experience baffles me. I don't care if the cost of labor makes your business inoperable. Tough shit. The last year or so I've…
keep driving people out of business then get ready for lots more "adjustments" to your life and standard of living.
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And destroy the property values of all the people that worked their whole lives to own a home there. You're being myopic or selfish, neither is fair to your neighbors.
Half of us want the property values lowered, so that it's even possible to buy something
Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses
#246Many young people or those cheering for employee/consumer rights do not seem to understand that this does more net harm than good. For small businesses and startups, this can amount to millions of dollars of additional expenses. Like any economically rational entity, your employer is going to respond by reducing headcount, not hiring in CA anymore, cutting costs in your annual raises, or some combination of the above…
One can always complain that raising wages or anything else that benefits the employee directly will just make them fire you because the “small businesses” can’t afford it. But now we’re talking about some small administrative overhead in exchange for not having to provide office space, so this seems even less relevant.
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
My company is largely remote at this point and is moving away from CA for cost/tax reasons. For some portion of companies this is just one more reason to move headquarters. That being said, I live in a pretty population dense area and my largest cost by far is dedicated home office space. It would be nice for my company to pay for that but it would have also been nice for them to pay for gas for my commute when I had…
> That being said, I live in a pretty population dense area and my largest cost by far is dedicated home office space. It would be nice for my company to pay for that but it would have also been nice for them to pay for gas for my commute when I had one. This is probably the best equivalent comparison I've seen in the thread. Paying commute costs vs paying home office costs.
I still did 3/5 days remote.
Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses
#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
A computer uses 150kWh/year @ $0.42/kWh that is $75/year. Certainly internet is possible at $60/month so $720/year. Say you have a generous $500/5 years for equipment plan and you are still below $1,000/year/employee. Yes there are other expenses but you should already be providing a PC etc. How are you getting to millions at a small company? Certainly a shop with 3,000 people is out a few million but... You have 3,0…
$0.42/kWh!??! Jesus Christ. I think I'm paying around $0.0629/kWh. Where is this?
Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
This law has been in effect for years.
It's been in effect for office work. CA is one of the few states expanding this to Remote work (according to the article).
Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses
#250Someone I'm close to is an exec in the architecture and engineering industry and during covid told me that companies are going to go back to office because of the nightmare dealing with these kinds of issues. He made the point that, what happens if your employee gets hurt working from home? It's a silly example but the employer could be liable for some reason since the employer could have failed to provide a "safe wo…
(But then, how far does that go? A non-slip mat? Shelving? Rewiring your home for old electrical?)