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Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

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Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

#241

Every bit of evidence is that the crypto boom has crashed to Earth. In tech it is basically a dirty word now and is overwhelmingly associated with the worst products, the worst teams and the worst get rich and quick sorts. In the rest of the market it has made little to no impact. Yet somehow BTC is still trading at close to historic highs. Now to be fair the market cap of all of BTC is 1/4 Apple, but if it were remo…

Wait, WHAT?

Your argument is: because a ton of people have put a ton of money into it, that proves that it's a scam?

So the stock market, which has a much bigger market cap is therefore MORE of a scam? What are you trying to do here?

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

#242

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Thanks to Ethereum (and specially now that there are L2s which have cheaper tx costs) I can distribute revenue from my business between different types of collaborators, without incurring in paying 120% in taxes for having "employees". In Argentina if someone works for you more than 15/20 hours in a given month you are legally obliged to hire them for, at least, 3 months. The legislation doesn't fit in tons of cases,…

You're evading taxes and worker protection laws. Congrats I guess? If your business model is dependent on flouting the law, then maybe it's time to rethink the business model.

???

The workers are the ones who can't get a job because of the "worker protection laws" you evoke, so you clearly don't understand the problems of Latin America.

This structure only gives them an incentive to travel hundreds of kilometers to a ranch where a bovine died for unknown reasons, for amounts that a western european would spend in a single take-out dinner.

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

#243

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This really is the key thing. Crypto allows for the evasion of laws. That's its key contribution. In authoritarian states this is probably a net good. In the rest of the world this is a harm. "The killer app for this technology is crime."

Wasn't the same thing said about a lot of encryption techniques which are now widely used for non-criminal activity?

Not by thinking people

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

#244

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> The hotel must be trusted to actually provide the room, so why not trust the hotel to also store the booking information? Because the hotel then has to swap the reservation whenever it's traded. Let's say I want to book a hotel in the future for downtown Chicago Cubs making it to the World Series. As the season progresses it's a future whose value goes up and down depending on how they are playing. If the hotel is…

You're literally suggesting turning hotel stays into speculative financial assets. This is, fundamentally, a really dumb idea. Whilst hotels do price sometimes unfairly, your suggestion where a selection of speculative traders engage in (at best) zero sum - and it doesn't even benefit the hotel providing the service. Just faceless traders.

> it doesn't even benefit the hotel providing the service.

It does. Unused bookings are pure profit for them. It also means that they get the cash now. It means they don't have the uncertainties of unusually low or high demand so it smoothes out their finances.

* To be clear, for this to make any sense, the booking has to be prepaid, or at least a significant portion of it. Maybe just minus a room cleaning fee etc that is due on check-in.

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

#246

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Arpanet started at 1969 and it was not immediately labed with certain groups as a scam, like here for years. That literally blocks the perception. So 2007-1969 is 38 years and not 14.

People were very hesitant to enter their credit card numbers into any website. This is a financial technology, it will bring more risks and justified hesitancy until the right projects iterate past the tests of time. We’re in the MVP stage as an industry with plenty of problems. Unfortunately those problems can impact lives in much more negative ways than a communication tech like the internet could during its “MVP e…

And people started putting credit cards into websites where there were standards and government approval for it. So that fraudulent websites can be procescuted and the credit card companies will refund your money. ie the user is not at risk.,

When will there be this backing for bitcoin?

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

#247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks to Ethereum (and specially now that there are L2s which have cheaper tx costs) I can distribute revenue from my business between different types of collaborators, without incurring in paying 120% in taxes for having "employees". In Argentina if someone works for you more than 15/20 hours in a given month you are legally obliged to hire them for, at least, 3 months. The legislation doesn't fit in tons of cases,…

You're evading taxes and worker protection laws. Congrats I guess? If your business model is dependent on flouting the law, then maybe it's time to rethink the business model.

> If your business model is dependent on flouting the law, then maybe it's time to rethink the business model.

Or maybe it's time to rethink the law...

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

#248
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Cryptocurrency was (and still is to an extent) a really interesting idea that has a ton of real world utility, especially as government surveillance continues its march towards panopticon. It's a shame that the "get rich quick" grifters and speculators took ahold of it and have killed any chance of normal people adopting it as a regular form of payment.

Nearly 14 years in, where exactly is this “ton of real world utility”? Surely someone somewhere would have a product providing this utility, even amidst the sea of fraud and grift. I still don’t see it. Some utility? Okay, sure. A ton? Not even close. Consider that the web launched in 1993. By 2007 (14 years later), virtually the entire planet had changed dramatically as a result. That is a technology with a ton of r…

There is literally only one kind of "utility" that matters in money and money-like instruments.

ONLY ONE.

"Do people believe it will retain or increase in value?"

That's IT. This goes for the things you think are scammy, and it also goes for the things that you perhaps expect to retire on.

There is nothing there besides "what people choose to believe."

So there it is, even for crypto. If enough people believe in crypto/the stock market/social security, then it will work and do the thing. If they don't, it won't.

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

#249

Every bit of evidence is that the crypto boom has crashed to Earth. In tech it is basically a dirty word now and is overwhelmingly associated with the worst products, the worst teams and the worst get rich and quick sorts. In the rest of the market it has made little to no impact. Yet somehow BTC is still trading at close to historic highs. Now to be fair the market cap of all of BTC is 1/4 Apple, but if it were remo…

I don’t know why it’s surprising. Cryptocurrency’s killer app was always crime, and crime is big business.

Cash, diamonds, etc are actually better for crime than cryptocurrency because they're less traceable.

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

#250

Every bit of evidence is that the crypto boom has crashed to Earth. In tech it is basically a dirty word now and is overwhelmingly associated with the worst products, the worst teams and the worst get rich and quick sorts. In the rest of the market it has made little to no impact. Yet somehow BTC is still trading at close to historic highs. Now to be fair the market cap of all of BTC is 1/4 Apple, but if it were remo…

As much as I would like to believe BTC's market is completely fake, there has to be some real liquidity there. The hashrate is ~421 EH/s which represents a tremendous amount of ongoing spending on mining equipment and energy. That spending has to be funded somehow and the only way that makes sense is by selling the mined BTC.

So there may be a lot of wash trading and games played with stablecoins trying to prop up the price, but there also must be enough real buyers to purchase the 6.25 BTC (~$175k) generated every 10 minutes. Otherwise the miners would not be able to pay their bills (surely owed in Real Money), would shut down, and we would see evidence of that in the network's hashrate plummeting.

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