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As evidence that Tiktok has caved to censorship demands, Mondoweis.com was banned today from Tiktok with no reason given.
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First, the trade war already started with China banning US companies domestically. Second, it’s not like the US can’t trade more with its South American neighbors instead anyways.
> China banning US companies domestically. When did this happen?
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I'm not sure how the behavior of the MPAA or RIAA has any relevance on how the DoJ functions.
Just an example of an entity using laws to punish everyday people we thought might otherwise go unpunished.
I haven't heard a good explanation yet for whether this is even legal. It seems like a textbook example of an unconstitutional bill of attainder. You'd have to ban TikTok based on something it does , and any such law would impact a lot of other companies too. Or I guess you could ban all Chinese software using trade laws, but that has even bigger ramifications.
A bill that says it is criminal to have ever had TikTok on your phone or it is criminal to have every distributed TikTok in the US would likely be a bill of attainder.
A bill that says that after some date that future it becomes illegal to have TikTok or distribute it would not be a bill of attainder.
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Surely this would mostly apply to non-chinese companies, no? This would wipe the market out.
OK. How about “they’re using the app to spy on us for a Foreign Hostile Government ”
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> Propaganda is widely used on social media (GP) > how it can be used to manipulate narratives On the domestic side of things, Elon Musk is doing this, to an extreme degree, with X/Twitter. I'm someone that follows mostly left-wing/liberal/progressive accounts, yet I keep seeing tweets on my feed (even in the "For you" timeline) from right-wing accounts (that I don't follow). It's extremely annoying, and it is plain…
that footnote is a whirlwind. either make the minor sacrifices necessary to live your values, or tone down the rhetoric to be in line with your actual, demonstrated values.
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1. There's a huge difference between a private entity launching civil lawsuits and the DoJ launching criminal lawsuits 2. I don't know what specific case you're referring to by "MPAA and RIAA [...] go after little old grandmas for their love savings", but the relevant laws likely predated mp3s and filesharing programs, so it's not clear how "we thought might otherwise go unpunished" would apply here. If anything it's…
I think you are looking too deeply into this. 1. When the comparison I'm trying to draw is "huge powerful entity using its power", what exactly is the difference? 2. I don't think there needs to be a specific case - it was in the news often enough for it to be a common thing. Here is an EFF article reviewing what happened years later: https://www.eff.org/wp/riaa-v-people-five-years-later "Five years later, the record…
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> China banning US companies domestically. When did this happen?
~2009 was FB, google, clouds followed in 2017 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-amazon-cloud/amazon...
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You still didn't explain the risks too clearly. Let's grant that TikTok is under direct CCP control, and specifically targets kids. Targets them for what? Mind control?
> Targets them for what? Mind control? Attempts to change/form their views to be favourable towards dictatorships and antagonistic to democracies.
Rather than china, I'm more concerned about foreigners like you interfering in america and american social media.
What's your particular interest in this? You aren't even american.
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~2009 was FB, google, clouds followed in 2017 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-amazon-cloud/amazon...
What ban? FB, Google, etc simply chose not to follow chinese laws and left. What US laws is tiktok violating? None.