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Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by workfromspace »

_caw wrote: post #229
TeMPOraL wrote: post #104

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Wish this worked for me, but my brain straight up ignores[0] any kind of alarm clocks, music, light, etc. until it's something like 10:00 in the morning, or until a person wakes me up (and checks 5-10 minutes later if I'm actually up)[1]. So, shifting time to morning turned out to be impossible to maintain when I was living alone - I could hold such schedule for maybe a week at most, gradually oversleeping more and m…

Hey, feel free to disregard this as I obviously don't know you. Have you considered if you might have ADD[0]? I know someone with identical experiences and this was the root cause. Having the diagnosis was life changing. [0] https://add.org/adhd-test/

FYI for anyone wants to try this test: it requires an email address for results (at the end of the test). Also there was only <10 questions. It didn't feel like a competent test.

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by ajolly »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #104
plorkyeran wrote: post #62

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A life changing thing for me was specifically scheduling time to do fun things in the morning before doing the things I have to do. If I wake up at six, I still don’t start my day until eight, and instead spend those two hours on things I otherwise would have done the night before. This broke the feeling of dreading mornings that lead to a negative spiral. Even if I know most of the day will be awful, if I can look f…

Wish this worked for me, but my brain straight up ignores[0] any kind of alarm clocks, music, light, etc. until it's something like 10:00 in the morning, or until a person wakes me up (and checks 5-10 minutes later if I'm actually up)[1]. So, shifting time to morning turned out to be impossible to maintain when I was living alone - I could hold such schedule for maybe a week at most, gradually oversleeping more and m…

Took me decades to learn that by shifting my meal times earlier in the day it made it significantly easier to wake up early.

Cutting out late nights snacks was vital as well.

Tons of research - search for early time restricted feeding. eTRF.

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by StimDeck »

bombcar wrote: post #154
TeMPOraL wrote: post #143

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Waking up is solved for me now - I'm married, my wife is an early bird (and our kids are the worms, they get up even earlier, or am I getting that adage wrong?), and she makes sure I get up (and stay up). Right now, the bedtime is a problem - revenge bedtime procrastination + everyone getting used to me doing extra work overnight during some more busy times (I work remotely, so sometimes I handle kid emergencies duri…

I find when in those situations Power Nap works decently - for awhile. Luckily I only have to do it once in awhile. I slam something high in caffeine (ice tea, soda, energy drink) and then immediately pass out. It only works if I’m already fighting staying awake. An hour or so later I’m up again and can complete the day.

This is my solution. I try to get a 90 minute nap whenever I can, but 30 and caffeine can help too. These two numbers are important so that you don’t wake up in a REM cycle.

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by GinsengJar »

drakonka wrote: post #135

Below have been my strategies to improve my sleep over the years: * No coffee after 12.00 - No black tea after this time on most days either * Peppermint tea a few hours before bed * Magnesium before bed * No alarm (I naturally wake up between 7 and 8am, though sometimes stay in bed for longer) * Ereader in bed - reading helps put me to sleep * Blackout curtains (a must in Swedish summer) * Sometimes, visualizing sce…

>Sometimes, visualizing scenes from whatever story I'm writing as I fall asleep. This can both help me get ideas for the story and help me fall asleep.

This is how I would fall asleep as a kid (when I had a flip phone). My mind was so active yet I fell into some amazing sleep.

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by markus_zhang »

Aurornis wrote: post #228
musha68k wrote: post #70

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Difference between parental experience can be wild . Sometimes up to literal survivorship bias talk from other parents; can be mildly annoying but ultimately I always feel happy for them and their kid(s) that they just don’t seem to (want to?) really know better. Again, good for them - and us all - lest we’d have gone extinct long time ago ;)

I’ve also had a few friends who manage to burn out in every situation. They’ve burned out in every job they’ve ever had, they burned out in college, they burned out in high school, etc. So of course, they’re burning out with parenting now too. At some point, we have to acknowledge that personality plays a big role in this. Some people create their own stress in any situation.

I actually agree with you. I'm exactly the kind of people that are easy to burn out. Your description 100% matches me. This is such a perfect match that I'll write it down and paste it somewhere.

I really really hate being bored. I do not have the will power to grit through a lot of things that many other qualified people can grit through (so this is conditional probability, think P(dropping college | getting pretty good grade first year)). I didn't fail high school -- I actually ranked some top 25% in my first year but dropped to bottom 25% at some point and barely dragged myself to median at the end. I didn't finish my first college. I got completely burned out that I got a zero GPA for one term (I didn't drop any class, I just sit at the finals and handed in empty). I did drag myself through the second college and a master with B+. But it took me a couple more years to get it done. Occasionally I'd drop all courses just because I don't want to do it. I never completed any hobby project. I bite my nails and fingers frequently from childhood. I just don't have the ability to walk through any medium-long term plan, and it's getting worse.

Well, not something I can fix quickly, especially at my age, so I'll drag myself along. I can see my son having some of the same attributes that I have. It runs in the family. I'm going to get some therapy.

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Post by markus_zhang »

Broken_Hippo wrote: post #75
elteto wrote: post #24

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Honestly, no reason for not having children is good enough for some people. I'm a woman in my mid-40s. I do not have children and have simply never wanted children. I've been called selfish, shallow, and other such things. Something must be wrong with me. No man will ever marry me if I won't have children. I'll change my mind - on a scale of "because I'm young and stupid" to "biological clock will kick in". None of t…

Back in the day I discussed the no-child option with my wife. We are both cool with it, but neither of us really stood a firm ground so we eventually gave birth to my son. It has been a mixed experience and I totally get why people don't want kid(s).

I usually have an open mind to other people's personal choices. I rarely judge other people's personal choices. This is probably one of my few good qualities.

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by heavyjoe »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #104
plorkyeran wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A life changing thing for me was specifically scheduling time to do fun things in the morning before doing the things I have to do. If I wake up at six, I still don’t start my day until eight, and instead spend those two hours on things I otherwise would have done the night before. This broke the feeling of dreading mornings that lead to a negative spiral. Even if I know most of the day will be awful, if I can look f…

Wish this worked for me, but my brain straight up ignores[0] any kind of alarm clocks, music, light, etc. until it's something like 10:00 in the morning, or until a person wakes me up (and checks 5-10 minutes later if I'm actually up)[1]. So, shifting time to morning turned out to be impossible to maintain when I was living alone - I could hold such schedule for maybe a week at most, gradually oversleeping more and m…

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Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by ramoz »

2devnull wrote: post #164
ramoz wrote: post #101

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I thought the same. I didn’t “experience” any of these things. I’ve always been driven, fit, resilient. Procrastinated about my health, and being better about sleep/all-nighters. Then I was diagnosed with cancer at 30. Blessed to have treated it. I don’t take health for granted any longer, sleep is a critical component of my health. Mental and physical state are 10x where they were. Ymmv. There’s no proof that I dire…

I cannot sleep and there’s nothing I can do to alter that and no doctor that I’ve found can help. It was not my choice to stop being able to sleep. It’s not my fault either. One finds the benefits in it because the only other option is suicide, which is from what I gather a fairly common outcome. Consider that when you make statements about the negative consequences of insomnia. For many it’s not a choice and they ar…

Sounds like you have other issues to treat.

My statement was fair and there is clear science around the effects of poor sleep.

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by TeMPOraL »

_caw wrote: post #229
TeMPOraL wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wish this worked for me, but my brain straight up ignores[0] any kind of alarm clocks, music, light, etc. until it's something like 10:00 in the morning, or until a person wakes me up (and checks 5-10 minutes later if I'm actually up)[1]. So, shifting time to morning turned out to be impossible to maintain when I was living alone - I could hold such schedule for maybe a week at most, gradually oversleeping more and m…

Hey, feel free to disregard this as I obviously don't know you. Have you considered if you might have ADD[0]? I know someone with identical experiences and this was the root cause. Having the diagnosis was life changing. [0] https://add.org/adhd-test/

> Have you considered if you might have ADD[0]?

Yes, and thanks to HN I went in and got myself diagnosed; turns out I have ADHD, and while treating it solved a host of problems[0] and overall improved my quality of life, it did not help for the problems I mention in this thread.

Well, maybe getting my brain into high gear is much faster with stimulant meds in the mix, but it only revealed that my limiting factor isn't cognitive, but emotional - and so it often still takes me a good chunk of the day before I have all the emotions in enough of a balance to focus without fighting some anxiety.

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[0] - Or at least allowed me to overcome some major problems, and then replace them with even tougher problems.

Re: Impacts of lack of sleep

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Post by drakonka »

GinsengJar wrote: post #244
drakonka wrote: post #135

Below have been my strategies to improve my sleep over the years: * No coffee after 12.00 - No black tea after this time on most days either * Peppermint tea a few hours before bed * Magnesium before bed * No alarm (I naturally wake up between 7 and 8am, though sometimes stay in bed for longer) * Ereader in bed - reading helps put me to sleep * Blackout curtains (a must in Swedish summer) * Sometimes, visualizing sce…

>Sometimes, visualizing scenes from whatever story I'm writing as I fall asleep. This can both help me get ideas for the story and help me fall asleep. This is how I would fall asleep as a kid (when I had a flip phone). My mind was so active yet I fell into some amazing sleep.

Same here! Remembering that I used to fall asleep like this as a kid is what inspired me try it again.
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