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Re: SUSE to go private

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Post by ekianjo » Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 10:22 AM UTC

Jnr wrote: post #178

ekianjo wrote: post #142

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Even Fedora tends to update packages faster than Arch

Having used (and still using) Arch for over a decade, I can tell it is probably a good thing. Maintainers seem to know which packages bring trouble after updates and they do seem to test those more thoroughly. I have not experienced major breaking changes for desktop or other important piece of software in many years now. For example, things like Gnome always come to Arch months after it has been released upstream. B…

Yes its probably not bleeding edge anymore at this stage

Re: SUSE to go private

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Post by ekianjo » Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 10:22 AM UTC

Vogtinator wrote: post #181

Jnr wrote: post #178

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Having used (and still using) Arch for over a decade, I can tell it is probably a good thing. Maintainers seem to know which packages bring trouble after updates and they do seem to test those more thoroughly. I have not experienced major breaking changes for desktop or other important piece of software in many years now. For example, things like Gnome always come to Arch months after it has been released upstream. B…

Somehow my experience is the other way around: Arch updates more slowly but somehow still manages to be much less stable...

What broke recently for you?

Re: SUSE to go private

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Post by jhoelzel » Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 2:25 PM UTC

eraser215 wrote: post #229

jhoelzel wrote: post #226

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Guys while I know that Redhat also contributes to SIGS for kubernetes, My point is that SUSE is just much more available. This is especially true on the edge and unless you are a megacorp, i don't see anyone forking over money for the license. The open source offering is not to be used for production and simply as a testing ground for features that make it upstream... OKD, could have been a closer match to k3s in ter…

You do know red hat contributes far more to upstream kubernetes than suse/rancher don't you? You know they helped google open source it, don't you? Rancher certainly got the jump on red hat for lighter weight deployments, but to claim that it is more kubernetes than the red hat offering shows you don't actually understand what you're comparing.

yes im very well aware of that, but i am also very well aware that from an actual user point of view, SuSe is the much better choice. For everybody without unlimited credit cards, Suse is also the much better choice.

From the viewpoint of the average IT worker, Suse is also the much better choice!

Re: SUSE to go private

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Post by zeruch » Sat, Aug 19, 2023, 10:26 PM UTC

qwytw wrote: post #240

zeruch wrote: post #237

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No, but they shouldn't be allowed to not act as fiduciaries, and do what they do now, which is to load debt, do bolloxed sell-lease contracts, and basically take money from all sides, and screw everyone else into a pulp. It's a garbage model out of a Dicken's novel and is a huge reason why a groundswell of anti-capitalistic sentiment keeps growing. It's a case study in "worst practices" of venality.

> which is to load debt ... and screw everyone else into a pulp Individuals are just as capable of doing this, just look at Twitter and there are plenty of adequately run companies owned by PE. We just don't pay attention to them. But yeah somehow severely limiting debt funded acquisitions (when the debt is offloaded to the company which is being acquired) would probably be a very good idea.

"Individuals are just as capable of doing this,"

Yes, but fiduciaries aren't (and even VCs generally try not to).

" there are plenty of adequately run companies owned by PE

Define "adequate" and which ones are they? I've certainly experienced directly and indirectly enough to know I'm quite burned on them, and I have yet to meet a single person who enjoyed dealing with one, that wasn't one; anyone on the receiving end of endless cost cutting, sell leasebacks, forced vendor changes to more closely align with portfolio choices regardless of sense, etc.

No, the people who seem to love PEs are either Ayn Rand's fluffer contingent, adjacently or are making money off one already without having to be subjected to their profoundly absent graces.

Pass.

Re: SUSE to go private

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Post by ghqst » Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 3:18 PM UTC

msla wrote: post #125

ghqst wrote: post #101

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I see no mention here of unions or anything similar

Neither do I. I was replying to someone equating corporations with Fascism, which is a complete misunderstanding of corporatism. But, apparently, making that much sense gets me downvotes.

That makes more sense. Your original sentence was unclear.