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Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by shultays »

godelski wrote: post #58

There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…

  all this has accomplished in the last decade is a decrease in market share
A crazy idea but maybe Mozilla also have some fault on that

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by programmer_dude »

iakov wrote: post #193
gmerc wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google: Let’s put DRM in the browser, hijack the address bar, webmanifest Omg, firefox screwed me over by showing me an ad. I see. I think no further illustration needed.

Textbook whataboutism. Google is objectively evil, what that has to do with Firefox, my "user agent", showing me Disney ads?

Textbook idiocy. Whataboutism is not a phallacy when the discussion is about comparing things.

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Post by afavour »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #216
godelski wrote: post #58

There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…

I see people hating on Mozilla, not Firefox. They absolutely deserve it too. They got one billion dollars and they're reducing software development spending to focus on agenda pushing instead. One would think they'd try to fix the web by making Firefox the dominant browser.

> They got one billion dollars and they're reducing software development spending to focus on agenda pushing instead

Where have they announced that they're focusing on "agenda pushing"? Mozilla's "agenda" feels like a very tiny part of what they do, it's just that people talk about it endlessly.

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Post by donkeybeer »

Firmwarrior wrote: post #236
mgbmtl wrote: post #232

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Firefox lost power-users because 1) performance was bad 2) Chrome does very aggressive marketing and various Google sites break randomly on Firefox. And performance was very often bad because of extensions. Perhaps anecdotal, but whenever I ask a Chrome user why they don't use Firefox, that's the main two reasons they cite. I do ask often though. What "certain features" do non-tech-savvy people need? I know lots of d…

Firefox randomly broke all my extensions and workflows one day in the pursuit of some obscure technical goal, via forced update that I couldn’t roll back. I asked about it, and they banned me from their subreddit, so I deleted that stupid browser and never went back

And their constant user hostile redesigns. Suddenly tabs are floating separately from their pages. And now if a page is playing audio you can no longer see its favicon, etc

Speaking of mobile firefox where did Save as PDF vanish and why? and so on

edit: I have been told in a reply the save pdf feature still exists but has been changed for no reason to a different location in the menu

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by nfriedly »

lazycouchpotato wrote: post #8
cute_boi wrote: post #2

Nice! I wish Mozilla release altstore/sideload version of IOS app with all the feature available in android.

It would probably be a lot of work for not a lot of people. You can use Firefox extensions on iOS via Orion Browser. [1] https://apps.apple.com/app/orion-browser-by-kagi/id148449820... [2] https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#iosext

Mozilla's already done the work to make Firefox (the full browser, not just a Safari wrapper) run on iOS multiple times.

It wouldn't be that much more work to package it up and release it for side loading.

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Post by majewsky »

bgdam wrote: post #201
andyjohnson0 wrote: post #118

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> Because of stage 2.5 - i.e. User abuse by company. Not everything fits into the framework of enshitification. This is about the transition to ff/android supporting the full range of extensions. Its a transitional measure.

But Firefox for Android originally did support the entire breadth of the addon ecosystem. When Mozilla made the quantum update they removed support for addons, and then brought back a very tiny subset. How is that not enshittification?

Enshittification is entrenching your monopoly position as a platform or marketmaker in order to claw back all profits for yourself. Neither part of the definition applies: Firefox is not a platform dominating any market (they neither have the market share, nor can Mozilla force users into using Firefox through monopolies in other areas). And the users are not deprived of anything. (If you wanted, you could sideload the old Firefox for Android that supported extensions. The fact that this is a stupid idea because of security concerns is not relevant for this argument.)

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Post by flutas »

nfriedly wrote: post #227
flutas wrote: post #224

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Half that billion has probably been spent on interviews that they randomly decide they no longer are hiring for right before they take the entire company to Hawaii. I'm not salty about the 6+ interviews or anything.

Ha, you made it to 6, that's impressive! I only got scheduled for one interview, the interviewer was a no-show, and they never answered any of my attempts to reschedule or even find out what happened.

I honestly don't remember the total number, but it was up there. I know they said it was the final interview before an offer would be given.

The manager of the team I would have been going on (FF for Android funnily enough) knew of some of (and said he actively used) my past work which was probably a leg up.

In the end they were far from the worst interviewers (hello Hopper for that title*), but it soured me against Mozilla after putting that much time and effort into it and just getting a "we're no longer hiring for this position" form email.

*: Never paying out their tech screening "payment", to rejecting me over an answer I never gave (we didn't like when you said "XYZ").

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Post by phatfish »

friend_and_foe wrote: post #50
doctor_radium wrote: post #36

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Iceraven's reason for existence has been about allowing (pretty much?) all Firefox addons since day one. And about:config. Wish you hadn't downvoted him.

Yep, and I still have to deal with my settings being reset every time I update, their user hostile UX flows, strange highlights on web page elements, and all the other stuff Firefox says aren't important to users. But I do it, why? So that all those scaremongers who screech "but you have to use Firefox! Otherwise youre helping the evil only other game in town!" like they always do don't have a single argument. Mozill…

Firefox works fine for me, setting have never been reset. Feels like you have some other issues to work out unrelated to free software.

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Post by nfriedly »

Daedren wrote: post #102
HexDecOctBin wrote: post #51

Meanwhile, on the iOS version, they can't even support the OS-provided content blocker API, meaning Safari has better support for privacy-related add-ons than Firefox. https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/firefox-ios/issues/7374

You can’t use the App Store Safari extensions on webviews. They’d have to add their own content blocking list, much like they did with Firefox Focus.

I never got why Firefox Focus was a separate app? I want the ad blocking from Firefox focus and the tab switching in history and whatnot from the regular Firefox on iOS.

But, mostly, I just use Android so it doesn't really matter.

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