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Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by stevenwliao » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 5:18 AM UTC

oefnak wrote: post #239

stevenwliao wrote: post #231

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> Search for torrent or download link, click, Hope that you didn't click a sketchy ad that looks just like the download link, because the site didn't police any of its ads.

I recommend looking into adblockers! uBlock Origin is the best one.

Most people don't run an adblocker on their phone, and these torrent sites would cease to exist or become malware sites themselves if enough users used adblock.

Let's not kid ourselves- these site runners are not Aaron Swartz.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by kccqzy » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 5:20 AM UTC

mcphage wrote: post #213

lathiat wrote: post #178

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The reason is that Apple specifically requires all digital only purchases to only use in-app payment and must give Apple 30%. You are not allowed to process digital purchases through an app with your own payment system. You also can’t tell people that or link them to the website. This does not apply to physical goods. Which is why all the apps you mentioned are fine. This is the same issue that has been talked about…

> The reason is that Apple specifically requires all digital only purchases to only use in-app payment and must give Apple 30%. You are not allowed to process digital purchases through an app with your own payment system. You also can’t tell people that or link them to the website. > This does not apply to physical goods. I don't really get this division other than "it's what Apple could get away with". As far as the…

According to Apple's logic, they are providing more service than just payment processing.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by sam0x17 » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 5:26 AM UTC

NoZebra120vClip wrote: post #210

zen_1 wrote: post #205

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I am morally opposed to most IP laws and believe they are categorically illegitimate.

By your own authority, then. Are you a judge, or governor, or a bishop or something?

Not being any of those things gives extra authority, if anything, in my experience.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by kccqzy » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 5:27 AM UTC

tornato7 wrote: post #29

Just some of the problems authors already faced online (I'm related to one): - Google indexing and republishing all of their work for free on Google Books (finally resolved after a huge Class Action suit where the authors were awarded a few $$) - List your book on Amazon for $20 and a "third party" reseller will immediately hijack your listing with a poorly printed knockoff copy for $19 - Widespread piracy of Kindle…

> It's very difficult to make money writing books these days.

Go read some autobiographies or memoirs and you'll find well-to-do authors and their lavish lifestyles.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by pwdisswordfishc » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 5:28 AM UTC

darknavi wrote: post #177

grogenaut wrote: post #172

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Step 1: go to amazon on a real computer and find book Step 2: click buy Step 3: in the post purchase confirmation it says "Want to start reading right away?" and a dropdown of your devices with a deliver button. It's a kids device they (and you) don't want your kid to be sent 50 shades of gray accidentally. The other flow is buy book. Go to kindle, "sync and check for new items". But again, it's a kids book, don't wa…

> go to amazon on a real computer What's a computer? /s

> /s

Thanks, I wouldn't have noticed

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by sam0x17 » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 5:30 AM UTC

zen_1 wrote: post #205

NoZebra120vClip wrote: post #190

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Do the ends justify the means, matey? Have you considered accessing freely-licensed content instead, and supporting authors who believe in the freedom movement, such as Creative Commons? How would you feel, if you were an author, and people openly advocated piracy, such that you were deprived of sales, and earning an honest living?

I am morally opposed to most IP laws and believe they are categorically illegitimate.

Yes, IP is a handicap for the top 1% of corporations that turns into a weakness when you go toe-to-toe with countries that won't play that game anyway. It's an emperor with no clothes situation if I ever saw one.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 5:31 AM UTC

VincentEvans wrote: post #128

Let me tell you how to buy a kindle book for my kid’s Kindle that is connected via a child account in “Amazon Household” to my Amazon account. (This opening sentence already signals how the rest of this will go). A child’s account can’t buy books - you have to do it for them. 1. I open Amazon app on my iphone and find the book - “This app does not support purchasing of this content”. 2. I open Kindle app on my iphone…

You download the epub off of Library Z or Libgen, and you airdrop it to their device.

What you were doing isn't "buying" anything, Amazon has on more than one occasion deleted books off of devices after they had been purchased.

On the subject of children's book, a few weeks ago I checked to see if there were retail versions of the old Choose Your Own Adventure books (there were, for Kindle!). Turns out, none of the "turn to page X" instructions are links, but also none of the pages have the original page numbers. $8/each, and you can't get a refund. The Amazon pages are full of 1-star reviews of people bitching about it.

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 5:33 AM UTC

scrum-treats wrote: post #174

post-it wrote: post #101

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How would anyone know to look for an NFT on the fake? The target of the scammers is someone browsing Amazon, who isn't going to know to look for an NFT. Someone familiar with the author is just going to check the author's website and see the list of books they've published.

The NFT/NFC is locked so the tag is immutable, and only the seller and Amazon have the public key. Barring some hack on the NFT/NFC tagging software (which could happen in theory), you'd need both the private and public key to create a counterfeit object, along with a MFA token of some sort (e.g., biometric data, another OTP like Yubikey). And this would be true for every physical and/or digital print.

Wouldn't that require the NFC tag to have a HSM / secure enclave? If the tag just contains a signed token, they'd just copy it, but sticking a secure enclave in an NFC tag is... probably doable, but not cheap or easy. (Or if I'm wrong please correct me, because cheap/easy secure enclaves would be interesting, or I might be missing some detail of how you'd do the NFT side)

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 5:34 AM UTC

NoZebra120vClip wrote: post #232

zen_1 wrote: post #225

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I'm arguing based on reasoning, not authority. Are you a satire account by any chance?

By what authority do you promote illegal activity? I mean, I support civil disobedience, and jury nullification, and such things, but those are generally personal matters, that one does not promote or encourage in public. Absolutely remarkable that folks in this thread appear to hate freedom so much that I can't even recommend freely-licensed Creative Commons content.

Because people refrained from encouraging jury nullification, it is now completely irrelevant.

No one gets a trial with which a jury could even choose to nullify the charges.

When you act coy with this stuff, they sneak around subverting it to the point that it no longer works. Did you see what happened to OWS ten years back?

Re: I would rather see my books get pirated than this

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Post by Obscurus » Tue, Aug 08, 2023, 5:34 AM UTC

NoZebra120vClip wrote: post #190

zen_1 wrote: post #164

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cough mobilism.org/libgen.is/irc channels/z-library cough

Do the ends justify the means, matey? Have you considered accessing freely-licensed content instead, and supporting authors who believe in the freedom movement, such as Creative Commons? How would you feel, if you were an author, and people openly advocated piracy, such that you were deprived of sales, and earning an honest living?

My favourite way is to get a kindle book via Libby, keep it on airplane until I’m actually done, and then buy the physical book to keep. No harm no foul imo.