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Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#241
At this point I'm more angry at the mods than I am the evil corporation. They were afraid of Reddit ruining Reddit so they went ahead and burned it down themselves first. Congratulations, you got to be the ones to light the match.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#242
post #128

If you care about this stuff, please at least give the fediverse a try. Yes it's inadequate right now in all kinds of ways. But the main reason is that not enough people are there. It needs critical mass. Pick whatever you want - kbin, lemmy, mastodon. Go there, find your community (it will probably look very sad compared to Reddit). And contribute something positive - comment, post, whatever. If everybody just did t…

That's the thing - what I like about reddit is that every single community is right there. I don't need to figure out a new complex system. It's a megaforum with every single subniche you can think of, without having to go to any other site or any other server I want a centralized megaforum. I don't care about federation or what technology it uses. I just want easy access to everything

This is learned helplessness acquired from the past decade where the internet became five megacorp websites. No different from your siblings or parents saying they aren't good at computers. It isn't a complex system. You are surely capable of figuring it out.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#243
post #148

Probably would have been interesting to relaunch the Apollo with its own backend as a direct competitor to Reddit. I think one simple push notification would've pulled millions of the most active users over to the new service

Apollo had just over ONE million users. Only 540k of whom were active. And significantly less that paid the fee needed to be able to post. And most active according to whom? People keep saying Reddit is committing suicide. Do y'all truly believe that most of Reddit useful content was created on mobile? In Apollo? The app that forced you to pay if you wanted to submit content to Reddit? Get real.

If all the rejected apps banded together onto one shared backend, they would have more people than any of the new movers people have scattered to.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#244

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There's no possible way this is the cause. Like, at all. The simple sniff test is that blast radius of the passing of this law would be way way way larger than "reddit charges for API". We'd see many other sites follow suit with reddit. IANAL but I'll put down $100 that this law has nothing to do with reddit's API changes. First person to prove me wrong gets it. I'd like a quote from spez that says, paraphrased "If V…

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23762868/reddit-ceo-steve... > Huffman has argued the changes are a business decision to force AI companies training on Reddit’s data to pony up, but they’re also wiping out some beloved Reddit apps, and thousands of subreddits have gone dark for days in protest. … They want to charge for what they believe the data is worth. Not for usage, but value.

> They want to charge for what they believe the data is worth.

Counter argument: it’s not their data to charge for. And if they want to claim it is their data then they should be held accountable for the content therein.

I’m not saying they shouldn’t recoup costs for access to said data. You do after all pay taxes and get access to local libraries and archives. But they shouldn’t be extorting third-party developers.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#245
post #90

Oh that's dumb. I forgot to check my inbox before midnight. I had offered Tildes invites and don't have the password to that account (but have been logged in since years, can access the auth token, etc., but reddit doesn't want you to recover from this scenario, so that's gone forever). Well... anyone here needs a Tildes invite?

If your offer is still open, I would like one, please.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#246

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That's the thing - what I like about reddit is that every single community is right there. I don't need to figure out a new complex system. It's a megaforum with every single subniche you can think of, without having to go to any other site or any other server I want a centralized megaforum. I don't care about federation or what technology it uses. I just want easy access to everything

For what it's worth, Lemmy and kbin are very much the v1 of the fediverse, the UIs and servers are improving quickly as they break (just like how reddit was notoriously down all the time years ago). After you sign up you don't have to care much about servers or instances, just tap "all". I don't think it will be long before someone comes into this space with a good UI and the community that reddit just marooned and t…

I hope you’re right

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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post #152

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Fediverse isn't it man. Whoever owns the server is in complete control of all the content and can delete it at any moment then you have to find a new server and start over. It only solves part of the the problem, not even accounting for how confusing it is to normal users.

That’s something I am trying to solve with my upcoming site LimeReader. The user data gets submitted to multiple servers and retrieved from multiple servers. Users can add their own servers if they like too. I was hoping to have the beta already but I am now hoping to have it out this weekend. For those curious, I am the developer of HACK, one of the top rated hacker news apps for iOS and Android. https://limereader.…

Love HACK. Would you be willing to add a Six Colors icon like Apollo has?

Looking forward to LimeReader!

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#248
post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fediverse isn't it man. Whoever owns the server is in complete control of all the content and can delete it at any moment then you have to find a new server and start over. It only solves part of the the problem, not even accounting for how confusing it is to normal users.

That’s something I am trying to solve with my upcoming site LimeReader. The user data gets submitted to multiple servers and retrieved from multiple servers. Users can add their own servers if they like too. I was hoping to have the beta already but I am now hoping to have it out this weekend. For those curious, I am the developer of HACK, one of the top rated hacker news apps for iOS and Android. https://limereader.…

Using HACK rn and its great ;) I’m new to HN since using reddit less and this app is really easy and snappy to use. I particularly enjoy the “best comments and posts” feature. If I could offer one feature for the future, would it be possible to specify the range of time to view best posts from? Love using the app nonetheless!

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#250
post #42

I remember signing up for Reddit as a college freshman. I was a digg user and joined Reddit in the aftermath of that fiasco. I sometimes laugh looking over my post history for the past decade plus. If you read the posts linearly, you can trace my evolution from a kid arguing passionately over politics and culture (things he didn't really know much about), to a more mature young adult who rarely waded into discussions…

If we’re having a wake… I remember when I accidentally became a moderator of /r/science because they asked for variety of domain expertise and I’m a geographer and c’mon… nobody’s a geographer. It was a fun experience. Then became an educational one. Then frustrating. Then thankless. Then I stopped. I’m happy for the lessons. I’m sad it died years ago.

Im a systems engineer who works with 5 geographers, and a director who is a double PhD geographer. The geospatial engineering we do is a thing of art, and affects over 11 million people.

I get it!

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