I really hope a decent Reddit replacement shows up soon; my impression is that HN is mostly webdevs, so surely some of y'all are on it?
I've started browsing https://tildes.net/ recently. For now, since the community is small, it feels like hackernews2, but I hope it gets bigger.
The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen
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Huh? All subreddits that have ran votes, the community has been in majority favor of closing.
I saw posts in threads here saying that some sub-reddits didn't have votes. And the vote or not does not adress my point about forcing users who don't want to participate to have to. If the majority of the users wanted to boycott, then if they don't go to Reddit.com, simple as that.
They're always free to go start their own subreddits.
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#243They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?
8 years ago a bunch of Reddits went dark to protest the firing of Victoria Taylor. The AMA sub claimed that they wouldn't be able to continue without Victoria's help. Eventually the sub opened back up and things continued as they had before; the average user noticed no difference. If you told people today that Reddit AMA's hadn't been working for the past 8 years because the company fired an employee then, they'd pro…
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#244This feels so disingenuous:
> Subreddits exist for the benefit of the community of users who come to them for support and belonging and in the end, moderators are stewards of these spaces and in a position of trust.
Where the fuck were you guys when, for example, people were complaining about the mods over at /r/india?
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Mods don't work for Reddit. They volunteer for Reddit moderation. Much like you can volunteer to be the leader of the DND club at a local hobby shop. They are not an employee. People who don't like what Reddit is doing should stop showing up. Mods who don't like it should stop moderating. It's as simple as that, if enough people agree, Reddit will be no more. I will bet Reddit will be just fine.
> Much like you can volunteer to be the leader of the DND club at a local hobby shop. A DND club with an IPO?
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#246I don’t blame them. Reddit owns the subreddits, not redditors. I have no idea why someone would put the time required into moderating a large sub for no money just for Reddit’s benefit in the first place. A Reddit model where the mods share in profits (kind of how YouTube creators do) would be interesting. But if you’re going to sign up for that, you can’t expect Reddit to just let you tank their site. It was never y…
Community is a bit like a butterfly. Try to grip it too tightly and you no longer have a butterfly just mush
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#247As with a lot of things Reddit has done in the last week this falls under then "Oh, you only care about this now??? Screw you Reddit".
Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen
#248They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?
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Those issues (per the article) being that it's not a perfected platform yet and that it's slightly different than reddit.
How do you go from this: > There’s just no way I could feel comfortable in a community that supports the right-wing nationalist Putin’s war on Ukraine, or outright denies the harsh repression meted out against Muslims in China. Which makes up 50% of the article, to "it's slightly different than reddit"?
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> With the result that Reddit lost a popular, interesting feature and a lot of cultural relevance. Looking through /r/IAMA, and I can't say that I'm seeing that. If you look through the top voted AMA's of all time there, the vast majority are some years after Victoria's departure. Comparing those to the few on there from prior to her departure doesn't seem to show much of a difference, at least from what I can tell.…
I don't know if this is a good metric because Reddit five years ago had 4x as many active users than 9 years ago. It would probably be an interesting exercise to download the data for all the AMAs and adjust by MAU to see what the actual most popular threads were, but I'm not going to do that right now.
It does today, yet most of the top upvoted ones aren't from the last few years. Rather, most seem to be from 2 to 3 years after Victoria was fired. So they seemed to get more popular in the first few years after she was fired, and then less after that. I'm not sure that can simplistically be chalked up to an expanded user base.
The most upvoted AMA of all time is Obama's from a decade ago. However, that was a year before Victoria started working there (she only worked there two years from what I can find).
None of this is to denigrate her work, for what it's worth. Just that the doomsday scenarios that were given back then (IAMA mods were claiming they wouldn't be able to continue unless Reddit changed its decision) never came to pass.