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Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by the_gipsy »

cj wrote: post #150
lumb63 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m astounded and confused that you and a lot of other commenters are giving Reddit the benefit of the doubt. At a time when tensions between Reddit management and its users are at an all-time high, and both sides are maliciously striking back and forth, most commenters are assuming that an act like this is due to incompetence rather than malice? I don’t understand the thought process.

Innocent until proven guilty can be a decent philosophy even outside the courtroom. Especially when tensions are high. Both sides giving the other the benefit of the doubt can help to deescalate. Unless the objective isn't to deescalate.

> Unless the objective isn't to deescalate.

Oh, the sleighthanded irony.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by Seattle3503 »

What is interesting is that reddit claimed they couldn't show mods deleted comments for "lawyercat" reasons[1]. Mods used to be able to check deleted comments for harassment via Pushshift. Has the legal calculus changed so much in the past month that reviving comments to the general public is now okay?

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/134tjpe/reddit_dat...

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by bunga-bunga »

Karawebnetwork wrote: post #231
b0afc375b5 wrote: post #172

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Interesting. If it's alright to ask, why do you have this policy? In my case I never delete my posts/comments and always edit with a big "EDIT" disclosure.

I do the same. In my case, it's doxxing prevention. I don't like that someone can put my profile on one of the reddit inspector sites and get a detailed profile of me, including my age, where I live and my hobbies. I also don't like it when people can click on my name and get my entire history across all subreddits. That's not the case here because I consider HN to be the equivalent of a single Subreddit, so the info…

Why don’t you just use throwaways? I stopped reusing usernames online long long ago.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by anonymouskimmer »

ohgodplsno wrote: post #206
Communitivity wrote: post #139

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I am not commenting on whether this is a good thing or not, from my POV that's for each person to decide themselves. However, if this catches on and becomes more prevalent (and I could see that happening), then I'd expect some kind of cyber-vandalism law to be enacted. They can't prosecute based on hacking, because it isn't. But it could be argued you're 'defacing/destroying' digital property by editing to add conten…

>But it could be argued you're 'defacing/destroying' digital property by editing to add content that knowingly will mess with their algs. It cannot. Source: Reddit's ToS and reality: >d. User Content. Reddit user photos, text and videos ("User Content") are owned by the users and not by Reddit. If I want to replace what I posted with seventy five consecutive poop emojis, I am fully in my right to. Coupled with the ri…

Additionally, if they leave the edit functionality intact for older posts they would have no legal grounds to stand on. It's not "hacking", or in any way unlawful, for a user to use an option provided by a company.

I predict that if they want to do something about this they'll go the HN route and just make posts uneditable/undeleteable after some time.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by usefulcat »

lumb63 wrote: post #132
rodw wrote: post #113

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I've got a decade old account on which I've made a habit of manually deleting comments older than 6 - 9 months, since they get so little visibility and there's no value in leaving a breadcrumb trail. Checking just now I see that comments up to 3 - 4 years old have been restored. I'm not going to speculate as to why (beyond agreeing it's more likely to be incompetence than malice) but in my case at least there are def…

I’m astounded and confused that you and a lot of other commenters are giving Reddit the benefit of the doubt. At a time when tensions between Reddit management and its users are at an all-time high, and both sides are maliciously striking back and forth, most commenters are assuming that an act like this is due to incompetence rather than malice? I don’t understand the thought process.

> I’m astounded and confused that you and a lot of other commenters are giving Reddit the benefit of the doubt.

I think it makes sense for anyone who values objective truth above any other agenda. "Benefit of the doubt" is just acknowledging that we don't know for sure.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by jmholla »

qzx_pierri wrote: post #179
jmholla wrote: post #167

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> Musk is charging on Twitter so the users aren't the product. I think the adage is a little wrong. In Twitter's case users are still part of the product as the existing network effects and ability to communicate with users are part of the product, and thus it's users are. Not to such a significant degree as when advertisers are sweeping up every bit of data about you, but still to some degree.

> In Twitter's case users are still part of the product as the existing network effects This is a nitpick. I'm speaking from the POV of keeping the site running, or not resorting to changing the site's essence to please advertisers.

My point was more in reference to GP's comment where even on a paid service, waging war on on users is waging war on your product. Though, after typing this out, that would seem to be even more so the case since that's where your money is coming from.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by code_duck »

josu wrote: post #50
nik736 wrote: post #3

This is crazy! I like the following comment on kbin: > I said it before and I say it again: if you have the patience to do so then make sure you overwrite your content with chatgpt generated content, as the future AI that will feed on your post HATE feeding on already AI generated stuff. It makes the AI diverge. People should not be deleting their posts but actually just replacing them with random AI generated conten…

That is what this extension does: https://github.com/sr33/ares It hasn't been maintained in a while, but I can confirm that it still works. EDIT: Here is another alternative. I haven't used this one myself but it seems legit: https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite

It’s pretty simple to do yourself. Last time I did this, I injected jQuery and wrote a few lines to delete a comment, wait a few seconds, delete another… then you reload the page and do it again. I would imagine that most HN members could do that fairly easily.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by jcranmer »

hajile wrote: post #171

Reddit's privacy policy here seems to be pretty clear [0] > Deleting Your Account > You may delete your account information at any time from the user preferences page. You can also submit a request to delete the personal information Reddit maintains about you by following the process described below this table. When you delete your account, your profile is no longer visible to other users and disassociated from conte…

Note this line that you quoted: "Please note, however, that the posts, comments, and messages you submitted prior to deleting your account will still be visible to others unless you first delete the specific content."

The privacy policy is explicitly saying that deleting your account does not delete your comments.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by koheripbal »

theRBII wrote: post #80
Pyramus wrote: post #59

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No, check GDPR Article 4 (1): personal data means any information relating to an identified or identifiable person. The content of a post is not personal data (in general) but the things like user name etc are. The content is not relating to an identifiable person (in general) while the user name is. Shakespeare's poems are not personal data.

Depends on the content - not many people out there are directly doxxing themselves but indirectly? Maybe. From my post history on Reddit, you'd know where I live, my age, gender, job, relationship status and a good amount about places I've been and my interests. There are already websites that collate that info from a profile to give a summary of the user. Under GDPR, that quite possibly adds up to personal data rela…

The moment they post it publicly, it is no longer considered personal private content
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