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Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by thefourthchime »

milkytron wrote: post #11

This is what is needed to put pressure on Reddit. A two day protest then returning to normal is a blip in the grand scheme of things. But if they do not change their API pricing, stance on third party apps, etc, then a prolonged blackout could lead to an eventual exodus. I hope the communities I used to engage in partake in this prolonged blackout.

I’m not sure if it’s even about that anymore. They were so antagonistic towards the issues it turned everyone off to the leadership.

I think a replacement of spaz would be the only thing that could move the needle at this point.

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Post by bastijn »

predictabl3 wrote: post #205
bastijn wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is for any that is like you my guess is there are 2 more like me. Or 20, or 200. Never checked how much people use 3rd party apps vs. total users. Honest question, what is so bad about the Reddit app that you would give up browsing the content you like? I experience little ads, and if I would be annoyed by it I would probably find ways to get rid of it (pi-hole style). I'm OK with how the app displays comme…

>Honest question, what is so bad about the Reddit app that you would give up browsing the content you like? I don't appreciate being lied to, treated like less than garbage? And I'm certainly not going to keep contributing to a platform that does that to me? Especially when this stuff is only going to get worse as they "march towards profitability"? I gotta log off. I don't know if ppl here are young, naive, or if it…

People are there of all types, no matter their age.

My take is feeling offended is a choice. Personally, I just let it slide off and continue my life. Life's to short to get offended by these things. But we are different and that's fine.

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Post by __loam »

WheatMillington wrote: post #186
ssl232 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where will reddit get enough mods to police the hundreds (thousands?) of subreddits each with tens of thousands of members that are rebelling against the API changes? Blocking/firing the existing mods would make the site descend into chaos.

They are really only going to care about the top tier subs, the rest will be replaced by the community. So really we're only taking 20-100 subreddits, depending on definitions.

8000 subs went dark.

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Post by asah »

erellsworth wrote: post #43
ThomW wrote: post #18

... until they just take over the moderation of their largest communities and this whole thing ends. I mean what's so magical about the moderation of something like r/videos other than the mods being free labor for Reddit?

I think you underestimate the value of that free labor. Reddit isn't even profitable. Hiring mods for thousands of subreddits would cost them a ton of money, not only in wages but in the cost of finding and training those workers. Beyond that, the minute the mods are official employees of Reddit, Reddit is fully responsible for all the content on all those subs. Social media companies are already under a lot of scrut…

+1 - I've been a mod on a large sub, and it's serious business.

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Post by ribosometronome »

SirMaster wrote: post #157
xyst wrote: post #50

Good. This works out for everybody except the brain dead C-level executives that tried to bully indie app developers. - regular people get a break from their echo chambers - VOLUNTEER mods get a break - journalists get their news article The only loser here is the corporation side. Significant loss of value from decreased user activity. Subsequent loss of revenue. Inability to extract as much value from the users dat…

I don't think that's the only losers. As a mod I am getting messages from regular users who are desperate to see posts that have likely troubleshooting answers to problems they are having at work. Reddit is kind of a critical technical resource for some people and this is really hurting them at least right now.

Has there been any suggestion to update messages to suggest using the internet archive to see old posts?

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Post by deely3 »

dahwolf wrote: post #102
jleyank wrote: post #33

How does / will Reddit make money? Selling ads? Harvesting data? Monthly subscriptions? Some combination of all three? I have difficulty imagining why anybody would pay a fee to join a bbs no matter how fancy it is. Might be just me as a cheap old codger. Now, they can use ai to generate posts and dispense with moderators and even posters I guess.

I think this question is far more interesting than the blackout drama. It seems Reddit hasn't made a cent of profit in 15 years. That's absurd even by SV standards. Is it incompetence? Not a priority because the focus was always on growth? Or just difficult/impossible as nobody wants to pay for anything and block ads? I don't know the answer, but the answer matters. Both in this strike and the Stackoverflow strike ma…

> Reddit earned a $456.38 million in revenue in 2021 from ads and premium user subscriptions.

Im curious about spending..

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Post by Animats »

xyst wrote: post #50

Good. This works out for everybody except the brain dead C-level executives that tried to bully indie app developers. - regular people get a break from their echo chambers - VOLUNTEER mods get a break - journalists get their news article The only loser here is the corporation side. Significant loss of value from decreased user activity. Subsequent loss of revenue. Inability to extract as much value from the users dat…

"Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains! Let the ruling classes tremble!"

Barron's reports that Reddit's potential IPO is now in trouble.[1]

[1] https://www.barrons.com/articles/reddit-stock-ipo-revolt-6e8...

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Post by pimlottc »

majormajor wrote: post #140
CincinnatiMan wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your view is a little simplistic. There is plenty of useful information on Reddit. I'm a big fan of home-related subs for example, where a lot of trade-knowledgeable people seem to hang out. There is a wealth of information on subs like r/DIY, r/HomeImprovement, r/paint, r/woodworking, etc.

I've often wondered why people use Reddit for stuff like this since the information and conversation management and organizational tools seem vastly inferior to most any pre-Reddit forum software. My current working theory is largely that internet search is just broken. It's easier to search for subreddit once you're on Reddit than to wade out into the sea of SEO crap and try to find a live, reliable format on the br…

Unfortunately, it's practically impossible to find real individuals discussing things via Google. It's all promoted content and blogspam.

A long time ago, Google used to have a filter you could select for "forums". Once that disappeared, we had the "+reddit" hack. Now what? I have no idea.

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