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First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by asimpletune »

theodric wrote: post #122
mschuster91 wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is IMO attempting to brute-force create a market here. Facebook/Meta couldn't do the job - for one, Zuck has no idea what he's doing other than chasing buzzwords, for other, they have destroyed a lot of user trust over the past years. And I'm not sure if the stock could take more billions sunk. Apple in contrast? They deliver a whole different game in terms of quality and capability, and now others will take up…

Yeah I can't wait to spend €11000 so my family can strap a screen to each of our faces and watch movies like that rather than staring at a dumb old TV like some kinda poor people

Probably, in person, for the foreseeable future you'll just watch a movie IRL when people are in the same room, and that's fine and I like that.

What this will allow is for you to watch a movie with your friends remotely in a way that is compelling.

My gf and I were long distance for a few months. It was really hard, but being able to video chat every day really helped. Unfortunately, anything beyond that was difficult, like watching a movie, because the experience was awful. The closest we were able to do was use a browser extension that would sync our streams, and then have a chat box.

With this, remotely, you guys can watch the same movie, chat, see each other, hear each other, still hear the movie, etc...

Will it replace watching am movie IRL? Of course not, and it doesn't have to. I don't think they're trying to replace physical interactions, but they're making a great case for how we can augment and extend our virtual ones.

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by omeze »

ttul wrote: post #211
PostOnce wrote: post #72

I don't understand why there is no AR or VR killer app for this thing. Their sales pitch was "it makes it amazing to read articles in safari"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkq9Rgoj8E&t=5410s $3500 to... look at a floating web browser? Surely they can come up with something. Give me UV/IR vision, let me see the pipes under the ground, show me how to assemble the furniture I'm looking at, give me a template to pain…

The first iPhone was pretty crappy. No apps. 2G only. Poor battery life. Limited global distribution - not even Canada could get it. But it captivated people who didn’t own it yet, and it proved out some essential ideas like multitouch. And when the iPhone 3G came out, improving on some of the original device’s shortcomings, it was wildly popular. The rest is history. There is no doubt that AR will eventually get goo…

The first iphone let you have a real web browser anywhere you had cell coverage. This lets you have a web browser floating at home. Its not the same (and I love VR)

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by bees_buzz »

gizzlon wrote: post #236

Looking forward to trying this. Could be great! But: - Why are no of the other people in the meeting using a Vision? :P https://www.youtube.com/live/GYkq9Rgoj8E?feature=share&t=560... - The see-through of your eyes from the outside looks super creepy.

> Why are no of the other people in the meeting using a Vision?

Check out Marques Brownlee's video on this - they probably _were_, it renders your face using the internal cameras in real time and displays that.

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by kalleboo »

matsemann wrote: post #222
gehsty wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Safari was the killer app for the iPhone and iPad & it’s where people spend an awful lot of their time. This is a general purpose computing device, so seeing it have a great browser setup is a big deal.

Is it "general purpose", though? So far I've seen no mentions on how I or other developers can run our own stuff on it. Will it be a walled garden?

SDK coming later this month https://developer.apple.com/visionos/

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by malka »

op00to wrote: post #227
shawabawa3 wrote: post #194

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Theoretically yes, you can have large multiple screens on the quest 2 In reality, they are worthless, it's like looking at a CRT from 1995 At a certain point higher resolution changes how you can use it

No, you’re still just displaying traditional apps on a headset. They just look better. You still have a big dumb headset on.

I dont care about about wearing a big headset.

I just want to display fake screen, in HD, everywhere in my environment.

The quest does not have high enough resolution for this.

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by Alex3917 »

PostOnce wrote: post #72

I don't understand why there is no AR or VR killer app for this thing. Their sales pitch was "it makes it amazing to read articles in safari"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkq9Rgoj8E&t=5410s $3500 to... look at a floating web browser? Surely they can come up with something. Give me UV/IR vision, let me see the pipes under the ground, show me how to assemble the furniture I'm looking at, give me a template to pain…

> I don't understand why there is no AR or VR killer app for this thing.

Because if you go outside wearing this you're going to get instantly mugged. If they were to release something like Pokemon Go before the price comes down, that would likely just result in a bunch of kids getting murdered on the subway or whatever. Much better to drive down the costs by first selling it to people who are excited to use it for coding or whatever.

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by gehsty »

matsemann wrote: post #222
gehsty wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Safari was the killer app for the iPhone and iPad & it’s where people spend an awful lot of their time. This is a general purpose computing device, so seeing it have a great browser setup is a big deal.

Is it "general purpose", though? So far I've seen no mentions on how I or other developers can run our own stuff on it. Will it be a walled garden?

General purpose like a laptop or a phone.

It will have an App Store like the phone (this was in the keynote I think). I don’t think there will be side loading unless it is govt mandated requirement.

It is aimed at general population and not developers.

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by asimpletune »

ricardobayes wrote: post #95
jve wrote: post #86

To everyone complaining about the price, let's add Steve Ballmer to the studio, he will give some weight to your words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qycUOENFIBs

It never made sense back then and neither does now. The new iPhone is what, the best part of 1300 Euros here in Spain. A full monthly salary...

Apple's position, in so many words, is that if you want a cheaper iPhone, buy an older model. Their products are so good, that the budget model is just the old one.

For example, I have an iPhone 11. I got it the day it came out, and I really don't need another phone. I will continue to use this one until it breaks, or probably for another 5 years, whichever comes first.

Maybe for some people, it's beneath them to buy an older, even if it's professionally refurbished and warranted, but to me that says something about the quality.

Last example. My brother in law was once complaining to me about how Apple is trash and that they purposely slow down their phones and that it's all a conspiracy. I asked him what phone he had and he told me an iPhone 5s! I was so impressed that he didn't even notice how outrageous this was.

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by elzbardico »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #197
geysersam wrote: post #177

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But people still do shoot movies and make video games. It takes more work, but also (hopefully) provides an additional value. At sufficient scale it might make sense to do this (something like IKEA).

> But people still do shoot movies There are at least 1,000 books written for every movie shot, even including material shot by amateurs with their phones. Figures range from 500,000 to one million books published annually. However, if you include self-published authors you’re looking at close to 4 million new book titles published each year.

And yet, that small relative quantity of movies compared to books is enough to sell millions of new screens every year.

Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good

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Post by gizzlon »

bees_buzz wrote: post #243
gizzlon wrote: post #236

Looking forward to trying this. Could be great! But: - Why are no of the other people in the meeting using a Vision? :P https://www.youtube.com/live/GYkq9Rgoj8E?feature=share&t=560... - The see-through of your eyes from the outside looks super creepy.

> Why are no of the other people in the meeting using a Vision? Check out Marques Brownlee's video on this - they probably _were_, it renders your face using the internal cameras in real time and displays that.

Huh? You see their cloths and environment ..

Do you mean the avatar thingy?

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