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“Some 70% of the information on Yandex News was coming from state-controlled media sources pushing propaganda” This article reads like US propaganda. “Russia imposed increasingly restrictive laws, arresting social media users over posts, demanding access to user data, and introducing content filtering.” The US performs similar actions. The Twitter files have shown demanding access and content filtering by the governm…

> The Twitter files have shown demanding access and content filtering by the government with Twitter and likely other social networks.

They show no such thing if you actually read the content, of course the person hired by Elon (Matt Taibbi), who can't even criticise him for the most simplest and basic things is not going to write an article saying he is wrong.

You have to wonder what is in Taibbi's contract with Musk such that both parties are unwilling to make it public.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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post #93

I'm one of those Russian engineers that fled, and I'm very grateful to my multinational employer for helping me with the relocation. I wanted to leave Putin's dominion since my freshman year, but life kept getting in the way until the last moment.

Can you share what freedoms are not available to young professionals like you in Russia that are available in other countries?

If we open Human Right Declaration, Articles 2, 6, 7, 10, 18, 19, 20, 21, 26 at least are not available to anyone in Russia, including young professionals.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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post #220

“Some 70% of the information on Yandex News was coming from state-controlled media sources pushing propaganda” This article reads like US propaganda. “Russia imposed increasingly restrictive laws, arresting social media users over posts, demanding access to user data, and introducing content filtering.” The US performs similar actions. The Twitter files have shown demanding access and content filtering by the governm…

> This article reads like US propaganda.

Indeed, the real number should be higher.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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> with three-quarters of Russians still saying they support the war

The link that statement refers to doesn't mention that polls like that have huge percentage of people who refuse to answer. Given that expressing anti-war opinion is dangerous in Russia, most of non-supporters may simply stay unrecorded, giving incorrect share to the supporters. Supporters do not have such strong reason to refuse to answer.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I too would like to know. Which "accomplishments of the residents" did the USSR steal? There should honestly be a way to ban idiots like you from HN.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Korolev

Ah, famous Korolev who single-handedly built all Soviet rockets along with Baikonur cosmodrome.

Come on, give something better.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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post #221

Good. Russia should be a wasteland in all possible meanings

Would you care to explain why you feel like that? Since you are an inhabitant of this planet, your thoughts and actions affect us all. If you hate a country so much we ought to know at least why.

Of course.

Among many, many things, why I think that there should be far fewer Russians in this world, I remember one situation, that I still vividly and unpleasantly see from time to time.

It was in the middle of the night during one of many air, rocket, and shelling attacks. There was a sound and a feeling of rocket strikes, then the air alert signal went off. And I had to run with the child in my arms to the basement of the neighbor's apartment building, hoping that we are lucky enough and fast enough to not get hit, and hoping that if there were a direct missile hit, there would be another exit in this basement. So we would not get trapped there under layers of concrete, as has happened to less fortunate people in my hometown.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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And again the same mistake of claiming USSR == Russia. Yes, he was born in USSR, not Russia. Yes he received Soviet education, not Russian education. He made achievements in the communist system, not Russian. Also, look up in a dictionary what "racist" means.

Nowhere was I talking about Russia in this thread. I made a point that USSR developed a lot faster than western capitalist nations, and that it made a lot of inventions ahead of the west. You're the one who started bleating about Russia and making weird comments about what percentage of heredity makes a person Russian.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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As a russian dev who actually stayed in Russia I find it both hilarious and sad that this horrible piece of propaganda found a way to MIT Tech Review.

Firstly, how many IT workers fled the country is an interesting question with no definite answer. We have some figures from "ministry of IT" which Masha linked. She conveniently forgot to add that 80% of IT workers who left actually continued to work for Russia. Admittedly any number here will be a rough estimate at best. Still better than nothing. Another point is that though some experienced IT guys left the country juniors and interns are in insane competition for jobs. Another important point left out by Masha is that the incentive program contains a guarantee that qualified (finished uni with appropriate specialisation and works in IT company) IT guys are exempted from the draft.

Secondly, Yandex. It is presented as if it was that democratic and freedom-driven company and national success but then the war started and it was forced to censor the content blah blah blah. This is a blatant lie. Yandex censored search and news results before. We have good reasons to believe that Yandex cooperates with FSB regarding user content (emails and yandex drive). Moreover, IT companies in Russia are not limited to Yandex and VK. There is Sber. It is a government-controlled bank that now is more than a bank. Sber has its own ecosystem (streaming, location, delivery services, marketplace, AI department, AI assistants etc). You ain't seen nothing yet! There is a cluster of big b2b companies that work on the domestic market and CIS. Thousands of people work there but most russians don't even know that they exist.

Speaking of VK and social networks. Telegram is an interesting thing. It is not a Russian startup and government tried to ban it earlier. As far as I know in USA and Europe it is mostly used by people with more radical views. But in Russia everyone (I mean everyone who try to be modern, since VK is not cool) uses it now. Goverment, opposition, radically pro-Russia guys and ordinary people. It is more than a messenger now and something like social network. Telegram is a gray zone in terms of banned content. Btw I have a strong opinion that Durov reached an agreement with the russian government.

While tech giant in Russia are undeniably influenced/controlled by/depend on the state and hence censor their content and spy on customers, there are no compelling arguments that "Russia killed its tech industry". I'm sad that this kind of sentiment towards russian industries and people (as if all the brights have left the country) is the default in western media. It should be especially pleasant to think that russians are brutish, non-creative, and untrustworthy. I mean we are from jungle, and you are enlightened intellectuals living in your beautiful garden.

But content like this lacks intellectual honesty moreso depth. It worsenes the chances to understand each other. I wish I read on that page about the ways how russian IT industry is not actually dead (because it's the truth). How people living in autocracy manage to do cool tech things. I wish there was an analysis of russian government attempts to control the IT industry and media that would take into account worldwide trends in goverment and big tech relations (and no, that's not "whataboutism"). Instead there was another RUSSIA BAD.

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