Would the company give you a lot of notice if they decided to eliminate your role? If so, extend them the same courtesy, if you can. Chances are, most companies wouldn't.
Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
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Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
In general AFAIK they'll typically pay out the customary two week notice period but take away your physical and computer access. (By no means universal but plenty of examples in this thread of where it happens.)
If so, then no problem, right? My reading of the "two friends" anecdote was that it was somehow a problem that they were canned on the spot. If you take away my physical/remote access, I can't even be asked to help with handoff.
>If so, then no problem, right?
I agree. It's the company's decision not to have you help with handoff. Not your problem. In fact, all the more reason to give two weeks notice as you'd be paid for doing nothing. (If they were immediately fired with no payout, they'd probably actually be eligible for unemployment though that's irrelevant if they have another job lined up.)
I didn't take the same conclusion from the parent who didn't say anything about payments. In general, the norm would be to pay for two weeks--and maybe benefits to the end of the month. Someone can be terminated on the spot and still paid. (In general, they have to be paid out for accrued vacation time in any case.)
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#243No, no, no, no a billion times no to this absolutely not no The moment you give your resignation, there are good odds your company will say "we accept your resignation effective immediately. Goodbye." Sometimes it's a blanket company policy to do this, sometimes it's because they know you're going to a competitor and they don't want you to start training for your new job, sometimes they were on the fence about you st…
The moment you give your resignation, there are good odds your company will say "we accept your resignation effective immediately. Goodbye." Genuine question; is this a US thing? I've never, ever seen this or heard of it happening. I don't think I've ever worked at a company that didn't state in the contract the notice period. I have seen companies decide they don't want that person on site anymore when someone quits…
Here in Norway, if they "let you go" immediately they still have to pay you for your contract notice time which is usually three months.
There are some with six (my last job) or some with one. In my last job I was able to negotiate it down though as I wanted to quit earlier, it was the employer that wanted the six months in my contract. I was a key person in a start up bank so it's not a normal term to have.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Life hack: Put your resignation in writing with a date in the future. This sounds like such a neat way to deal with it. I wonder if it's legally valid in my jurisdiction (in Sweden.) I have never heard of it but yet again, why not?
No it’s not valid in Sweden (or anywhere else). The date at which your resignation starts to count is the date that your employer learns of your intent to leave. You are however free to agree on an arbitrary date with them as your last day. It’s not the date you put in the letterhead. That would be insane.
I think that's not what was meant. You _can_ hand in your notice earlier than contractually necessary. If your notice period was 2 months, and you let your employer know, that you are quitting in 3 months, that's perfectly legal. Its not changing the date of the document, it's about the date of your intended departure you mention within it.
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#245At my last job I gave a month to upper management and two weeks for those that I was supervising. This let management come up with a plan on how to reshuffle roles to fill the gap. I also created a transition document listing my responsibilities, suggested surrogates, and current statuses of projects I was managing and involved in. Why did I do that? Not really to get something out of it in the future, but because I…
A transition document seems reasonable. Anything more would be straight up people pleasing.
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#246Reading the comments in this thread really feeds into my bias that worker rights in the US are ... n't? I vividly remember a job posting from last year that listed '15 allowed sick days' as a benefit. What does that even mean? In Scandinavia, you set a mutual duration of notice for both parties when signing the initial contracts to start working. For IT jobs, the standard is 2-3 months. This gives both parties ample…
You are correct, the US has very few rights for workers, at least federally. Different states have different work protection laws, California has a lot of well known work protection laws.
49 states out of 50 are what are known as "at will employment" states (Montana is the only exception). "At will" employment means that the worker or the employer can terminate employment at any time with no notice. There are some restrictions on this, for example an employer can't fire someone because of their race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. Additionally there are laws about how larger companies have to handle mass layoffs.
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#247If I believe I have a lot of knowledge to transfer, I'll do a 2 week + X notice. I've done 1m notice, and that was excessive I believe. Otherwise, 2 weeks is standard in the US, and I have no reason to deviate. Nor would I conventionally just walk out that-day, as that leads to a bad odor.
If I was waiting for a bonus or cliff, of course I'd wait until after the date before formally giving notice. Because, of course, that would be a problem if the Management decided to terminate me immediately.
It's quite contextual, of course, but I prefer to follow local standards.
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#248I think this mostly depends on the then current employee market situation.
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#2492 weeks is the standard? I am amazed. In Switzerland where I live, it is 3 full calendar months. And I thought Switzerland is very similar to the USA... My god 2 weeks lol, someone quits and he is gone the next day. How is this legal?
In the US, it's generally considered important to the economy that employees have good job mobility. There's plenty of stories of awful employers / managers; so job mobility is generally considered how workers protect themselves. In general, because workers can pretty much leave whenever they want, employers need to make sure there's good financial incentives and good working conditions. Some employers will provide t…
If you get fired in Switzerland, your employer gives you a notice period of 3 months as well. Which is nice because it's plenty of time to find another job.
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#250It is not your job to put yourself out there in order to finally get your company to do the shit they should have been doing all along.