Live data from Hacker News

The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England

twitter.com

241–250 of 399 posts

Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England

#241
post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sweden’s murder rate is less than a fifth of the murder rate in the United States. It seems like their policies do go a big way to solve the problem, as infeasible as they appear to be for the USA.

You can't compare murder rates in the US with Sweden. They have a real welfare system, diminishing social inequalities and with that the feeding ground for crime.

we can do both

Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England

#242
post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's so bizarre that America is the only country in the world that seems to face these kinds of problems. As a Canadian who grew up in a household with a dozen firearms, I never once touched those firearms, and hardly ever saw them until I was taken to the range by my father and taught how to use them.

America is the only first world country to border South and Central America, which is the region of the world with a homicide rate orders of magnitude above any other. It is no surprise violence spills over due to proximity.

I'm very interested in this border between South America and the US. most maps seem to be hiding it.

also, fun fact, when your government spends a hundred years assisting coups of democratic or socialist governments, those counties are going to have a lot of political instability.

Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England

#243
post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought people in the US drove like insane idiots long before the pandemic. Weaving in and out of lanes, excessive speeding, road rage over the slightest inconvenience and, the dumbest one to me because it is virtually effortless, failure to use turn signals. It's very easy to drive safely but a good chunk of divers seem to outright refuse. Having said that, the data backs you up. 7% increase in per capita road fat…

Driving like idiots compounded by lack of traffic enforcement as police budgets and staffing decline. I just moved away from a pretty decently sized city, and the police there didn't do any traffic enforcement at all. Not enough manpower to cover traffic and crime.

it's not that they don't have the resources, it's that police would rather racially profile people and only perform a traffic stop if they think they can illegally force a search to find or plant drugs.

Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England

#244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Smaller cars are more dangerous in a multi-car accident. Smaller cars bear more of the risk in a multi-car accident from the more dangerous larger cars. The smaller cars themselves are safer. It's like saying t-shirts are less safe than guns because they won't stop bullets.

It's a negative spiral. More people get bigger cars now because well there are more bigger cars on the road now. That and the convenience of an SUV is unbeatable for people with families - like baby seats or ease of getting in and out and so on. When I bought my car almost a decade ago, it felt reasonably sized. Now it looks puny on the road.

Minivans are in many ways more practical than SUV for families just as many seats easier access back row of seat tons of leg room better millage. and while suvs perform better in head on collisions van are safer in most other as the suvs are more top heavy and likely to tip. Vans just have a stigma as the soccer mom vehicle despite all those soccer moms having moved to suvs to get away from it.

Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England

#245

"1 in 25 Americans being born will not make it to their 40th birthday." Wow. Actually impressed with the analysis backing this up. If you read the entire thread, he actually covers nearly every correlating factor I could think of. And it's pretty clearly drugs, guns, suicide, and cars. (The cardio health one doesn't seem as strong). The one that is crazy to me is the uptick in driving fatalities. Cars are an order of…

Drivers in the US just seem incredibly aggressive to me. I remember crossing some street in downtown Pittsburgh, and a car coming towards me. The guy was clearly seeing me, and accelerating instead of slowing down. I jumped forwards and survived.

As a counterpoint I’m an Australian living in the Bay Area and drivers here are more considerate than back home. In law abiding Melbourne where I grew up, drivers will happy run you over if you’re jay walking because they supposedly have right of way.

Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England

#247

Average life expectancy for a man in the US is still higher than a man in Scotland. Doesn't that make all the claims in this series of tweets imply the opposite of what they were trying to prove? Why doesn't the gun ban and the NHS and all that help people in Scotland if it would do so much good here in the US? Lying with statistics is very easy, there is a book about it: https://amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell…

> Average life expectancy for a man in the US is still higher than a man in Scotland

A quick check says this is not true, with the US being at 74 and Scotland at 76. I don't know which sources are correct though, but maybe you can post yours since I didn't find that anywhere.

Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England

#248
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ll admit I didn’t look up those numbers but I read about these things way too regularly. But that’s of course not the main thing about guns and kids in the US like everyone knows.

Statistically speaking, suicide is the #1 cause of gun death in the US, gang activity is #2. School shootings are far down the list. They get a lot of attention but don't account for a large proportion of deaths. Of course, that any of these deaths occur is tragic, which is why the most sensible solution is repeal of the Second Amendment and implementation of a nationwide, federal license requirement to purchase or o…

NY tried that forced registration trick. Look up the compliance rates for it sometime.

Re: The average American has the same life expectancy as the worst part of England

#249
post #176

The numbers, and explanations, are both fascinating and despairing. But, as an outsider (AU) looking in, they're not at all surprising. Getting most of my information about the USA from what might be called (there) as left-leaning (but elsewhere as centrist) -- or witty aphorisms like 'Russia's about to find out why we don't have health care' (wrt weapons shipment to Ukraine), or the despairingly persistently applica…

As an affluent tech industry Australian living in the US (Bay Area) I’d say there’s very little practical difference in my standard of living here compared to back home. It’s more the poorer parts of society here where the figures quoted in the article apply and that feels just as removed from my life here as it does to you sitting in Australia. The US is a big place.
Post reply on HN