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He seems quite serious. He mentions he has 12 stacks of 4 each of the Rpi devices, and another 20 around the house.

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Say what you will about the new version, but the old version of System Preferences was certainly not "chaotic". I found it very pleasant to look at and navigate. This new thing violates much of Apple's own HIG, and despite running Ventura for half a year, I still find myself hunting for things that should be easy to find. Quick: where do you go to turn the volume menubar control on or off?

I type "volume" in the search field and pick the right option?

Now do it with a cup of coffee in one hand and a mouse in the other.

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"Random third party binaries" are not something Linux users really use, generally. Most of it is open source and comes through the repository.

Indeed. The idea of flatpack is to change desktop linux culture by normalizing the installation of 3rd party software, particularly proprietary software that people otherwise wouldn't trust without some form of sandboxing. Who does this benefit? I can think of two groups of people. 1. Commercial software vendors who want more Linux users to install their proprietary software. 2. 'Transplants', new Linux users who are…

for 6 years you could get root on Debian with the "beep" command

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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I don't think there are specific issues. The problem is that with each release of macOS usability, reliability and performance regress. If you're interested in these things and not so much in "bling" and questionable new features, then you'd share probably Ken's "atrocious" opinion. An example is the latest System Preferences. It's virtually unusable.

The latest system preferences are an improvement to me. It was a mess before and it’s still a mess but the app layout makes it easier to browse, and at least it’s consistent with iOS.

Except the iOS settings app is also a disaster

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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I don't know the exact issues but might be related to the issues why I left Apple : I was developing a very successful little tool for MacOS ( https://github.com/milgra/macmediakeyforwarder ) which listened for keypresses. From 2016 to 2019 it became harder and harder to install it because apple added more and more restrictions to apps like this. By 2019, you had to enable the application explicitly to listen for eve…

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I prefer my OS put several hurdles in front of a key logging app.

“keylogging” is such a moral panic.

If applications can edit arbitrary files on the system it's already game over. I have no idea why people focus so much on “keylogging” as the supposed super important and dangerous thing.

If one run any malware with the full file edit permissions of one's user account at that point in theory the only solution is erase not only the hard drive, but also every other drive on any other system one's user account has access to or at least in sofar those do not have some logging for connexions in some way to see who connected that cannot be edited by the permissions one has on that system. Of course if one has root on one's own system nothing on that system can be trusted any more from that point. The malware could in theory have edited the firmware at that point to hide any checks one could do with a recovery system on a portable drive, but that's all quite theoretical of course, but it's possible in theory.

Keylogging is such a strange thing to focus on in the face of being able to edit arbitrary files owned by the user.

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I was at the talk, and it's strange this what people take from it. You should watch the whole thing and see what he built over years. I was a bit disappointed that most of the questions ignored his talk about a very cool jukebox he built and focused on OS drama. He built a jukebox with all hit songs he could find in it 1900-2000 and for prerecorded music, got a player piano and sheet music and midi and integrated the…

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Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Raspbian* apparently. That's really interesting; even the highest tier Raspberry Pi still feels pretty sluggish as a desktop thanks to the limitations of SD card throughput/latency/queue depth/etc. I wonder what his usage looks like.

For our generation the Pi is sluggish. For Thompson's generation, it is a beast!

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10 seconds? Heh. I measured apt upgrades in multiple minutes on the Pi 3B. And forget about doing anything else; the system would hang hard until I/O was cleared. By contrast, upgrading my desktop tower from HDD to SSD was an incredible, dramatic speedup in terms of booting and especially apt upgrades. The latter became nearly instantaneous. Blink and you miss them. Now, on the Pi I use only the heavy-duty brand-name…

What relevance is the Pi 3B in 2023? This is like invoking a 2016 Android phone against the latest Pixel.

I don't know; has the sdcard storage interface, the driver, or sdcards themselves, been revolutionised in the past 7 years?

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Even if you downloaded that app explicitly for key logging? That's crazy! :)

... and the OS is supposed to determine your intent how?

By whatever mechanism the OS has to verify that you have the privilege. E.g. sudo. Not by raising a plethora of hurdles.
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