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Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Re: Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Post by goldcd »

bluGill wrote: post #49
goldcd wrote: post #22

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Just starting my second paid year - I didn't put up with the adverts for long. Works far better for me without the hearts. Less time staring at sentences trying to make them perfect - more quick failing, learning why, iterating and drilling it into my head. Also much more likely to spend longer in the app, maybe a couple of times a week.

After a few months of Duolingo you should move onto comprehensible input for learning. Your Duolingo subscription is holding you back

You're over-estimating my intellect...

I do occasionally get through some french youtube with subs and I'm getting better at roughly following - I'm not just relying on Duo. (I also have a grammar book to hand as well)

Re: Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Post by climb_stealth »

ben_w wrote: post #226
climb_stealth wrote: post #191

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Well, if they are so focused on engagement metrics then surely they would notice an active user drop since the big UI update? Both my partner and I were using the app daily and completely dropped it since then. Going from the reviews we are not the only ones. It is just such a clusterfuck and I'm still feeling bitter about it. Personally I find the German voice actors super annoying. The Indonesian ones seem fine. Fu…

> Well, if they are so focused on engagement metrics then surely they would notice an active user drop since the big UI update? My guess is the "school homework assistant" market is very different from the "self-directed adult learning" market, and growth in the former outweighs loss from the latter. Whatever the reason (I can invent many hypotheses, but they're just stories I can't test), Duo has gone from the app I…

Oh, good point. You may be on to sonething there. I missed that we may not be the target demographic anymore.

Re: Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Post by recuter »

ben_w wrote: post #232
recuter wrote: post #177

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After just 5 hours on a Duolingo Max I have become fluent at useful everyday language needs, behold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grA5XmBRC6g

De ezt rosszul fordították magyarból, nem fordították rosszul franciára. Szerintem ez a vígjáték megfelelőbb: https://youtu.be/mh_ePgI4n3Y ;)

Nevettem. Sajnos bebizonyosodott, hogy errefelé nem nézzük jó szemmel az alacsony erőfeszítést igénylő szarkazmust. Hajlandó vagyok figyelmen kívül hagyni a törvényszegést a havi Duolingo Max előfizetés szokásos megvesztegetéséért.

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Post by muttled »

bspammer wrote: post #222
csomar wrote: post #202

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No. I got duped into that too. After a few sessions they required payment.

Did you run out of hearts? Those recharge over time, you don’t need to pay.

I uninstalled it when they switched over to the Candy Crush model of making you wait to practice when practicing is what you need most.

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Post by rrrrrrrrrrrryan »

maCDzP wrote: post #9

They should combine it with Whisper so I can talk to some AI in a random language and just talk about nonsense. Also awesome training data since my pronunciation would suck? I am a bit too embarrassed to talk in a new language but staying with an AI would be ok.

"Speak" is the company that OpenAI is backing for this:

https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/17/speak-lands-investment-fro...

Apparently it's already the top language-learning app in Korea.

It was featured in their blog post a couple weeks back when they announced their APIs: https://openai.com/blog/introducing-chatgpt-and-whisper-apis

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Post by mgiannopoulos »

aroo wrote: post #145
mgiannopoulos wrote: post #108

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Have you tried this already? Please share more of your experience

considering that ChatGPT is going to run on GPT-4 and is more or less free, why would someone use this paid feature instead of talking to ChatGPT?

GPT-4 on ChatGPT is currently only available for paying users.

Re: Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Post by spandrew »

dfxm12 wrote: post #47
spandrew wrote: post #24

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It does kind of sound the same tho? Grassy-ass. Grassiyass. Grassyaas. Gracias.

If you drive from Virginia to Boston, you'll probably hear 5 different pronunciations of "Grassy ass". I don't think any of them sound like how I learned to say "thank you" in high school Spanish class.

True, but it does sound like how they learned to say "thank you" in high school, and how regional dialects can influence the change of language.

Re: Duolingo Max, a learning experience powered by GPT-4

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Post by bspammer »

muttled wrote: post #244
bspammer wrote: post #222

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Did you run out of hearts? Those recharge over time, you don’t need to pay.

I uninstalled it when they switched over to the Candy Crush model of making you wait to practice when practicing is what you need most.

The other way they could have monetised it is to limit the amount of time you can spend on it per day. I prefer this system.

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Post by dazc »

llbeansandrice wrote: post #72
atlasunshrugged wrote: post #5

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I also use it daily but I'm a bit worried I won't concentrate as much if I have unlimited hearts, have you noticed any decline in recall? But yes, the ads are super annoying... especially the same one to upgrade Duolingo puts in every time!

I think any serious user should be using unlimited hearts. You learn by making mistakes.

You learn by making mistakes.

Amen

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Post by bundze »

jhugo wrote: post #214
bundze wrote: post #88

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Yes, you can tell it that you are learning the language at the beginning of the conversation in plain English and ask it to correct any mistakes. You can easily start a bilingual conversation with ChatGPT, some random example here: https://www.reddit.com/r/russian/comments/112xgp2/practicing... To show you what I meant when I mentioned "enriching sentences", I've just generated an example of a B1-level English senten…

> User: Please improve this sentence: "Many people want to learn languages because they like to travel" > ChatGPT: "Learning languages is a popular pursuit because it enables people to travel and explore different cultures with greater ease." How is this an "improvement"? The user gave a concise sentence without errors. ChatGPT made it more verbose and added additional meaning that wasn't present in the original sent…

You are generally correct but the context is crucial here - in this particular case it was my intention to get a verbose fancy sentence out of a much simpler one. ChatGPT inferred my wish from the previous prompts in that chat.

Such use of ChatGPT has been useful to me as I'm trying to progress from intermediate to advanced level in my knowledge of German. However, there are numerous methods for learning foreign languages and it is understandable that you may prefer your own ways and disagree with mine.

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