Has anyone used Kyocera or Lexmark laser printers? I was considering buying a laser printer and HP was on the bottom of my list to consider. Thanks to their action I can exclude that option.
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#242I’m fed up with hp too and know nothing about printers m. I read a lot about brother and epson. Is that what you would recommend? I need to print 50 pages per year. I feel really clueless
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#244I'm amazed that this hasn't been regulated. Aftermarket commodities being turned into walled gardens based not on physical incompatibility but software checks is obscene. Does the EU have defenses against this kind of behavior? I feel like monopolistic is the wrong word. Creating captive markets?
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#245I had a trusty Bother MFC for years. It recently broke and I was looking around for another one when I realized that I might print a handful of things a year, so I used a printing service. Pretty painless experience and very wide range of options for quality and size if I ever needed that would be totally out of reach of even a very expensive home printer setup. Per-page for basic black text is a lot more than you co…
I already just use Walmart or similar for all my color needs.
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#246For those of you who haven't already, I highly recommend just biting the bullet and switching from HP to Brother for your home printing needs. I was a HP customer for decades . I had models going back to perforated paper dot-matrix printers. Finally last year I had a down-and-out fight to get my HP to do a basic task, and I bit the bullet and ordered a Brother at the recommendation of my friend. My mfc-l3750cdw Broth…
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the best part Is that you can easily circumevent the way this particular brand tries to cheat you.
It's less of cheating and more of toner is not heavy enough to maintain the desired darkness (it's a passive toner system, the toner uses its own weight to print). It's honestly wasteful but unfortunately active toner systems costs more and is much heavier than the already-heavy passive toner systems.
But they're not refillable, you might say. Usually they're thinwalled plastic, nothing a little knife and some duct tape can't solve.
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#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unlikely. I see this frequently, where niche vendors charge a lot for discontinued products.
Perhaps demand for discontinued products is not uncommon. It can have other reasons than the old products being bad (e.g. I recently bought two copies of a discontinued mosue at higher-than-MSRP prices because switching to a different model costs me in time to get used to it) but I wouldn't discount it as a major factor. A lot of products really have gotten shittier replacements.
A perpetual pattern in humanity is this refrain coming from old people. :-) You can find examples of it from centuries ago.
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#249For those of you who haven't already, I highly recommend just biting the bullet and switching from HP to Brother for your home printing needs. I was a HP customer for decades . I had models going back to perforated paper dot-matrix printers. Finally last year I had a down-and-out fight to get my HP to do a basic task, and I bit the bullet and ordered a Brother at the recommendation of my friend. My mfc-l3750cdw Broth…
According to this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31860131 , Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia ? If so, that's unfortunate.
I queried him further & according to him its random because he's heard both positive & negative stories with the exact same model numbers (which makes me think it must be firmware updates).
Thankfully my (very new) laser didn't have this issue: print quality is perfect. Afraid to do any fw updates now though.
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#250What's amazing about all it is that HP being hostile to its own customers is nothing new: - In 2005, they had one printer that refused to print if the cartridge was past a certain date, even if full. Several also underestimated the volume of ink in cartridges and told you it was empty when not. - In 2007, HP refused to honor hardware warranty if you install any other OS on their laptop. - in 2010, HP refused to provi…
A client of yours migrated TO Oracle in 2023? What are they smoking