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Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by donavanm »

scandox wrote: post #233
donavanm wrote: post #175

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> the whole reason [existing users] went to Linode was to avoid incumbents. Sounds like you just identified a tranche of customers Akamai doesn’t care about. As everyone else in the comments is pointing out Akamai doesn’t want your $1000/mo. It’s a waste of their time. They want customers who are eager to talk private pricing plans and $1M commits. And I expect the linked infra/team will now be providing services tha…

That is the reverse of my experience with Akamai. Doing business with them in the thousands per month and they're very good.

Huh. Ok, I admit I’m a bit surprised by the counter example but fair enough. My experience was more competing with them for the big dollar “enterprise” accounts I described.

Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by tambre »

dachryn wrote: post #209
geuis wrote: post #181

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This is what I've been worried about since the acquisition. I've been a loyal customer for over a decade and hosted jsonip.com there for 12 years. Now I seriously need to look for alternative hosting if/when the corpo overlords decide to start changing the offered products.

I've been with DigitalOcean for a very long time, their prices seem comparable to Linode, I always saw them marketed more or less the same. In fact, I don't even know why one would pick Linode over DigitalOcean or vice versa

Is their IPv6 implementation is still broken? It was the reason I moved off immediately after banging my head for a few hours because they somehow managed to screw it up despite RFCs advising how to do such deployments.

Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by beagle3 »

chaosite wrote: post #236
beagle3 wrote: post #208

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In the long run, possibly. In the medium run (first 2-5 years) it’s not cheaper. In the short run? Buying Linode gave them a foothold in the market. Creating it from scratch, would have taken months (or even years) to be able to make the first offer, and years until they built a reputation that would attract customers.

> a reputation that would attract customers. But the whole point is that they're throwing away any of Linode's existing reputation in favor of banking on the Akamai name.

But they are starting with a customer base, some of which have been with Linode for over a decade. Way easier and faster to build reputation from that as a starting point. (And also already cash flow positive and profitable, ignoring the purchase=setup cost)

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Post by jeltz »

NieDzejkob wrote: post #206
mardix wrote: post #80

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Checkout Hetzner. You will love their infrastructure. You will love their price.

Do you perhaps have any affiliation to disclose? This reads like ad copy.

He probably is just a normal Hetzner user.

Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by friendzis »

lamontcg wrote: post #120
jay-barronville wrote: post #63

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I can’t tell you why you haven’t heard of Linode much, but yes, the Linode brand absolutely is well known. When I think Linode, I think developer, small consultancy, etc. When I think Akamai, I think enterprise. Completely different brands. It just seems like such a bizarre business decision to me for Akamai to throw a strong brand like that away just because they want to slap their name on the product instead. All i…

> When I think Linode, I think developer, small consultancy, etc. When I think Akamai, I think enterprise. Yes, they're clearly trying to sell cloud services into their enterprise customers. Because small developers/consultancies have small pockets, and enterprises have large ones. It makes perfect sense as business strategy. But it requires understanding that you don't matter to them (you are not the main character…

> Because small developers/consultancies have small pockets, and enterprises have large ones.

Enterprises love long term contracts. Cloud is all about highly-dynamic PAYG. Who does not love long term bulk contracts at [roughly] the price of dynamic PAYG?

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Post by hamzakc »

nix23 wrote: post #220
jonwinstanley wrote: post #204

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I was using a standalone niche host in the Uk called TSOHost who seemed quite good. They recently announced they were shutting down their cloud hosting and gave just 45 days notice to move sites. Funny part was that the way they gave their customers notice was flawed and most customers didn’t receive any email from them. I wish a sense of deflation was the only issue I’d had!

If i need a UK host i always jump to Mystic-beasts. They are great, i use them even for Colo. https://www.mythic-beasts.com/servers/virtual

I second this advice. While they are not the cheapest, they definitely know their stuff and provide excellent support.

Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by pxtail »

xwdv wrote: post #34

Akamai must be feeling the pressure from Cloudflare.

Interesting way to reduce that pressure - I suspect that intention is to acquire some "dev friendly" company and try to replicate what CF is doing when it comes to capturing developers mindshare, exposing knowledge of availabile and offered services etc. Instead of working to make Akamai brand services more accessible and not perceived as stinky corporate concrete slab they decided to just buy something with good reputation among developers. General strategy is somewhat good because otherwise (I think) they will be very slowly moved into obsolescence by CF but the execution..

Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by traceroute66 »

Shank wrote: post #70

I'm sure they spent a lot of time thinking about this, but why not just call it something "Linode by Akamai" or "Akamai Linode"? Neither "Akamai’s cloud computing services" or "Akamai Connected Cloud" sound like viable names. Is the goal just to get people to say "I use Akamai"? I could even see a viable strategy where they rename the existing Linode but create a new Linode, ala Lightsail just to keep the name. They…

> but why not just call it something "Linode by Akamai" or "Akamai Linode"?

Because they know they're up against the AWS, GCP and Azure's of this world....

So it's probably a touch of the "nobody got fired for buying IBM", i.e. they consider "Akamai" to have more clout on a proposal sheet than "Linode".

Of course nobody sensible reads anything into a brand name, but if you're trying to impress the customer's C-suite ....

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Post by thaumaturgy »

pointlessone wrote: post #178
jeremyjh wrote: post #85

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Because they don't want to sell it to anyone who has ever heard of Linode. They are going to sell through their existing corporate sales contacts, as a new cloud compute offering by your pals at Akamai.

Does it mean that people who use Linode for Linode should be preparing to move out?

The writing's been on the wall for a couple of years now and Akamai doesn't have a strong presence in smaller niches.

I moved most of my stuff over to DigitalOcean a while back. The few remaining instances are now an urgent todo.

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Post by LinAGKar »

dachryn wrote: post #209
geuis wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what I've been worried about since the acquisition. I've been a loyal customer for over a decade and hosted jsonip.com there for 12 years. Now I seriously need to look for alternative hosting if/when the corpo overlords decide to start changing the offered products.

I've been with DigitalOcean for a very long time, their prices seem comparable to Linode, I always saw them marketed more or less the same. In fact, I don't even know why one would pick Linode over DigitalOcean or vice versa

There are some small differences. For example, Linode has a wider choice of distros.
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