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Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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HN is a little bit more “filtered” place: on Reddit and Twitter there are enough people who hate him just for the sake of hatred. He is Russian - they call him “fascist”. He has a road accident - they are intentionally omitting a little detail that a victim was crawling the road at night. I didn't know about the memes and Twitter jokes. Even after that post, people still try to blame him. I’m pretty sure this situati…

It's a misconception that people hate him for being r ssian. It's more like people dislike finding a consistent genocide apologist who has been publicly supporting the mass murderers for many years. This is a systemic position of his. In his late post he suggests that the murdered Ukrainians are somehow the same as the ruscist rapists who killed them. In the past he was shifting the blame for the r ssian fascist ethn…

Why do you write Russian like that?

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He was imprisoned because he hit pedestrians and one died. I don't know about you, but the way I drive I wouldn't hit pedestrians if they were laying in the road, maybe if they ran out in front of me. It doesn't sound like he has any sympathy for killing a woman at all, so the "woe is me I'm not a governor's son so I went to jail when others wouldn't have" is distasteful at best.

I live in the middle of a medium sized city in the UK, and drive late at night a couple of times a year for various reasons (day out in another city, late gig, visiting friends, etc). On pretty much every artery road here, if someone was sitting in the middle of the road and I was travelling at 60mph, there's absolutely no chance whatsoever that I would see them. For example, see [0] - this is a major road within a f…

There is a difference. He hit them on a crosswalk, not in the middle of nowhere. While not totally blaming zloirock, I don't understand why a driver shouldn't be punished for killing a pedestrian on a crosswalk.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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>It's not like when a company the size of Spotify uses core-js they just add it to their project without thinking. No, they know how important the project is. The devs at Spotify know how important that project is. But the people who control the money, middle and upper management, might now even know what Javascript is. Why would they spend money for something that's free? They're under pressure to cut costs anyway.…

> Why would they spend money for something that's free? They're under pressure to cut costs anyway. But isn't this like saying, "what's an AWS? Why do we need that thing?" Is there really no one technical saying, "look we need to offer support to core-js because core-js is the software that ensures our website works for everyone using it". And you're a large company who project depends on core-js (like Spotify) it ju…

> look we need to offer support to core-js because core-js is the software that ensures our website works for everyone using it

But that's demonstrably not true. In fact, nobody supports core-js and all the big websites keep on working.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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HN is a little bit more “filtered” place: on Reddit and Twitter there are enough people who hate him just for the sake of hatred. He is Russian - they call him “fascist”. He has a road accident - they are intentionally omitting a little detail that a victim was crawling the road at night. I didn't know about the memes and Twitter jokes. Even after that post, people still try to blame him. I’m pretty sure this situati…

It's a misconception that people hate him for being r ssian. It's more like people dislike finding a consistent genocide apologist who has been publicly supporting the mass murderers for many years. This is a systemic position of his. In his late post he suggests that the murdered Ukrainians are somehow the same as the ruscist rapists who killed them. In the past he was shifting the blame for the r ssian fascist ethn…

Aside from supporting killing innocent people he actually engaged in the practice himself.

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I recognize his challenges, but not sure if I can look past his victim blaming and "both sides bad" war rhetoric.

What would you say if you were in Russia? Would you publicly pour out your complete thoughts, whatever they may be, in a popular blog post with your name signed underneath? With an unfunded OSS project, a family to support and criminal history? Don't forget, you can't just "say stuff" in most corners of the world.

If you don't support the war and afraid to express your opinion, you can just remain silent and don't say that "both sides are equally bad". This kind is rhetoric is exactly what Russian war supporters use.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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HN is a little bit more “filtered” place: on Reddit and Twitter there are enough people who hate him just for the sake of hatred. He is Russian - they call him “fascist”. He has a road accident - they are intentionally omitting a little detail that a victim was crawling the road at night. I didn't know about the memes and Twitter jokes. Even after that post, people still try to blame him. I’m pretty sure this situati…

It's a misconception that people hate him for being r ssian. It's more like people dislike finding a consistent genocide apologist who has been publicly supporting the mass murderers for many years. This is a systemic position of his. In his late post he suggests that the murdered Ukrainians are somehow the same as the ruscist rapists who killed them. In the past he was shifting the blame for the r ssian fascist ethn…

This is your brain on reddit.

There are few positions more level-headed than “war bad, but bombing civilians also bad”.

Can you consider that neither Putin nor Zelensky are good people?

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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If he weren’t Russian and subject to OFAC sanctions, I would gladly wire him $1000 tonight if he would give up this project. The web is utterly broken. This one guy is enabling a multi-billion dollar advertising ecosystem for nothing? Absolutely insane.

Patreon Inc and Open Collective Inc (non-profit) are both US companies. You can let them worry about any potential sanctions. He gave you three options: https://opencollective.com/core-js https://www.patreon.com/zloirock or Bitcoin bc1qlea7544qtsmj2rayg0lthvza9fau63ux0fstcz Or are you just posturing?

You are welcome to look up my contribution via OpenCollective.

It’s dangerous for individuals to take liability on themselves by using Bitcoin to send funds directly. The OFAC sanction search above is for compliance officers at financial institutions. If, as an individual, you take it on yourself to send funds via Bitcoin and you’ve misunderstood the scope of sanctions then you may find yourself in violation. OpenCollective pays out through Stripe which handles the regulatory compliance issues.

Now you know.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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If he weren’t Russian and subject to OFAC sanctions, I would gladly wire him $1000 tonight if he would give up this project. The web is utterly broken. This one guy is enabling a multi-billion dollar advertising ecosystem for nothing? Absolutely insane.

> If he weren’t Russian and subject to OFAC sanctions Wrong. OFAC has sanctioned a number of Russian individuals and entities, including many of the country's banks. OFAC has _not_ sanctioned all Russians. Check for yourself at https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov Man up and send him the money. You can figure it out.

You are welcome to look up my contribution via OpenCollective. I couldn’t find your contribution though. Where should I look?

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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It's a misconception that people hate him for being r ssian. It's more like people dislike finding a consistent genocide apologist who has been publicly supporting the mass murderers for many years. This is a systemic position of his. In his late post he suggests that the murdered Ukrainians are somehow the same as the ruscist rapists who killed them. In the past he was shifting the blame for the r ssian fascist ethn…

Why do you write Russian like that?

The post (I believe) was replacing the 'u' with an asterisk for some reason. In combination with HN's text formatter, a pair of asterisks will make everything between them italics. If that wasn't intended, it can result in some weird character omissions and formatting.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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In my unasked-for opinion, he should absolutely give up on this project, and take a salaried job that'll let him support his family and not have to deal with the entitlement issues and lack of perspective the community evidently has. If half of what's in this post is true, he's shown admirable restraint: I'd have burned it all down the first time someone got pissy about a free thing I gave them.

Yes. But I think it also shows a common misunderstanding of "open source" (and even "free software"). What he did was incredibly valuable to a huge number of successful people and corporations. But no one owes him anything. That's the point of open source. If they did owe him something, they wouldn't have used it. They used it because it was great, it was established/known, it was available with no strings attached w…

For a while it was a trend for people to use userscripts to delete their old comments on various social media sites after a certain amount of time. I think this practice is unfair, because the user gets the benefits of participating in open conversation but tries not to pay the (IMO absolutely minuscule) costs in terms of privacy.

I see a lot of open source use the same way. Companies use open-source contributions but don't contribute back any of the value they receive. I'm strongly in favor of using strict GPL licensing or dual licensing for corporate and nonprofit use for every open source project. I know people like the MIT license so that people will use their projects, but fundamentally if you want open source to continue then open source contributions need to be enforced, because otherwise it doesn't happen

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