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We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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Within a sentence sure. And often arguments are familiar enough that even an essay I’ll know where it’s going. But we do occasionally have original ideas.

I don’t think we know what original really is to make a meaningful distinction between derivative work. With enough mixing and matching and a tiny bit of randomness, I bet a lot of original thoughts could be created.

These things are hard to quantify but ChatGPT writing does have a certain anodyne character, in my mind, when I read it. Then again, I can't quantify it, I could be biased by my foreknowledge of the writing's provenance, and even if I'm right, the world is full of situations where bland writing is suitable or even desired.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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post #221

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>if you're not a SME Small and Medium-sized Enterprise? What's SME in this instance?

This thread is weird. Are the comments made by bots unaware of each other? https://i.imgur.com/t6ilhR7.png

All but one of those accounts in the replies are > 5 years old though.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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"pseudo-authoritative" Psychometrics is the crown jewel of the field of psychology. There is no controversy among the psychometrists themselves that the body of academic work is numerate, correct, and repeatable. The author has chosen moral crusade over the quest for truth. A good place to start learning about the field - https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/index.html As far as exploring the dangers of AI…

Incidentally, didn't Bostrom just get in trouble for racist emails about psychometrics?

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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Ludites strike again. ChatGPT is smarter than 99% of humanity. period.

Are you a teenager?

I already saw a tweet that's the same tone as 'have fun staying poor'. It's like 'have fun be in denial'. I suspect the comment is not that unusual.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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> However, as I spell out in my book, the concept of AGI is inseparable from the kind of hierarchy of intelligence that has underpinned ideas of innate supremacy since the days of empire and colonialism. I think this line discredits the entire article, which was already a few obvious points blown at gale force into the reader’s ear.

I disliked the article, but this particular quote is a relatively strong one. Colonialism, racism, and aristocratic structures were often justified by the idea that certain classes of people are more intelligent, enlightened, or were selected by dieties. Here the author is arguing that a similar process is happening with AI, where atrocious policies by people in power are justified by claiming the AI (which was train…

Ah I see thank you for explaining that.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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It's so weird to me when apparently tech-savvy people say ChatGPT "lies", or call it a bullshit generator and so on. I mean - when you ask StableDiffusion to draw a dog astronaut, everyone gets that the image it returns is made-up, right? Nobody expects the AI to return only "true" images of existing things - it was trained on fictional images as well as photographs, and people understand that it can imagine new thin…

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Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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post #102

The BS that ChatGPT generates is especially odious because it requires so much effort to detect if you're not a SME in whatever output it's giving. Plus, the output, when wrong, is subtly wrong- it's usually not obvious BS, it's credible BS. If you are not competent in the particular area you're asking about, you likely don't have the skills to recognize BS. It also is a time saver, doing work that most people find u…

ChatGPT helps a lot but it is necessary to take everything with a grain of salt - so what? It still can save a lot of time. Just Alt-tab ChatGPT/Google. Adjust your mental model from what you think it should be to what it actually is.

  gem install hairball

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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post #102

The BS that ChatGPT generates is especially odious because it requires so much effort to detect if you're not a SME in whatever output it's giving. Plus, the output, when wrong, is subtly wrong- it's usually not obvious BS, it's credible BS. If you are not competent in the particular area you're asking about, you likely don't have the skills to recognize BS. It also is a time saver, doing work that most people find u…

ChatGPT helps a lot but it is necessary to take everything with a grain of salt - so what? It still can save a lot of time. Just Alt-tab ChatGPT/Google. Adjust your mental model from what you think it should be to what it actually is.

I hear this a lot but I don't find it convincing. If I know enough to know if the answer is good or bad, why would I be asking a chat bot? We could say this problem is somewhat analogous to sorting good StackOverflow answers from bad ones. But I feel that there are things like writing and presentation style (not to mention the votes and comments) that could tip me off to a bad answer that are absent when every answer is in the same voice.

Re: We come to bury ChatGPT, not to praise it

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This first generation of conversational AI clearly shouldn't be trusted, but I think there's huge potential for improvements. I see huge value in such an AI that can cite and quote real sources, and stitch together multiple verifiable sources in order to form an argument or narrative. We have already seen a glimpse of such an AI in Project Debater, which was able to quote real verifiable sources when making its arguments.
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